advokát vs právnik

12:36 Jul 10, 2013 

Articling clerk? That's perhaps akin to advokátní koncipient?

12:05 Jul 10, 2013 

I am sorry, I just got what you were asking. Long distance cables, I suppose. Well, the idea here was that if you can use the articling clerk, then you can use the lawyer for a translation of advokat, which, for me, would be the desired effect.

11:49 Jul 10, 2013 

the thing is, however, that not all lawyers in the Czech R. may wish to become "real lawyers" and are happy to be putting stamps on real estate and other documents. But this may become evident (or I would at least hope so) from the text.

11:32 Jul 10, 2013 

no dispute here, of course, that is understood from the beginning i.e. those guys are articling there as part of their 3-year period of apprenticeship

11:27 Jul 10, 2013 

Let me make it even clearer: while not every právník is an advokát, every advokát must also be a právník.

11:26 Jul 10, 2013 

• 1994 - 1998: Kalfus & Ondra, Prague, articling attorney
http://www.nwd-legal.com/lawyers/michaela-kovarikova

1969 he began work as an articling lawyer with the Prague Municipal Advocate’s Association.

http://www.usoud.cz/en/current-justices-and-court-officials/...

11:11 Jul 10, 2013 

I do know that in Canada, the US and the UK there are so called 'articling clerks/articled clerks', in the US it is often used.
Not to be confused with Law Clerk who in Canada is with a law degree and is closer to the articling clerk, or the US when it is something between a legal assistant and a lawyer.


http://nsbs.org/become_a_lawyer/articling
http://www.burchellmacdougall.com/about/articling/
http://www.investorwords.com/8856/articled_clerk.html

10:56 Jul 10, 2013 

Yeah, no. Although you can call law students "právníci", it is rather colloquial and not the primary meaning. Unless you writing about students?

08:45 Jul 10, 2013 

Unless you’re translating a highly academic text, I think you’re trying to read too much into it. The first two advokatni kancelare (Czech) I found at random by Googling use pravnik to refer to practising lawyers. “Právník JUDr. Irena Pražanová “ http://pravnik-advokatni-kancelar.cz/ “Přesvědčte se, že JUDr. Miloslav Boudys je profesionální právník a zkušený advokát” http://www.advokat-boudys.cz/

08:17 Jul 10, 2013 

pravnik is someone who has completed their legal education but not yet completed their training contract/internship, and advokat is someone who has completed both, i.e. full-fledged lawyer, thus:
advokat = lawyer, pravnik = trainee lawyer

16:17 Jul 9, 2013 

I find it odd that English can do without the general term most of the time.

So you'd also agree with the equality sign the Wikipedia article puts between the word lawyer and attorney?

15:59 Jul 9, 2013 

You know, Babs, in certain circumstances I believe it would.

15:40 Jul 9, 2013 

@Stuart: This would suggest "legal professional" = "právník"...?

14:44 Jul 9, 2013 

I'll tell you how it works in Czech:
právník = {soudce, notář, exekutor, advokát...}
advokát = member of the bar, licensed to practice, {barrister, solicitor}
Now would you give the favour back and tell me, whether "právník" has an equivalent in English?

14:44 Jul 9, 2013 

Právnik: je osoba s vysokoškolským vzdelaním právnického smeru.
Advokát: je právnik, ktorý navyše musel absolvovať predpísanú prax, prešiel ďalším odborným vzdelávaním, odpisom z registra trestov preukazuje bezúhonnosť a výkon jeho povolania je poistený pre prípad spôsobenia škody. Na jeho činnosť/nečinnosť sa možeš sťažovať Slovenskej advokatskej komore, ktorej podlieha.

The clerks to an advocate in Slovakia are called 'koncipient', I think that would be the equivalent to associate.

13:43 Jul 9, 2013 

it seems more like a hierarchy type thing, like in the US with 1st year associates, 2nd year associates, partners, etc.