macroestado

English translation: superstate

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Spanish term or phrase:macroestado
English translation:superstate
Entered by: Lydia De Jorge

22:06 May 20, 2013
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics
Spanish term or phrase: macroestado
La vicepresidenta económica del macroestado español, XXXXX, confirmó que en el seno de la Unión Europea macroestatista ya se están pensando métodos para salvar a los bancos privados, quienes recibieron más de 600.000 millones de euros desde el comienzo de la crisis económica internacional en 2008.

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Lydia De Jorge
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superstate
Explanation:
The EU is often described as a superstate. You can find many references of the term in relation to the Euro crisis.
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4 +3superstate
spanishwords
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Christine Walsh
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Charles Davis
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philgoddard
Macrostate
Catherine Gilsenan

  

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macrostate


Explanation:
The term appears to be used in the same way as 'macroestado', even though it's far more more frequent in physics/thermodynamics. The usage would appear to be rather biased.

http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=Mij5aWJnAcQC&pg=PA429&lp...

http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=6FJpey8xKcIC&pg=PA158&lp...

Christine Walsh
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agree  philgoddard: Yes, it's biased, and I think the translation will look as odd as the original.
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superstate


Explanation:
The EU is often described as a superstate. You can find many references of the term in relation to the Euro crisis.



    Reference: http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/10048.21332.0.0/economy/eu...
    Reference: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155082/Leaders-plot...
spanishwords
Local time: 07:36
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agree  José Alberto Ruiz Pérez: According to your references, I agree, this is the best translation for the term. Good work!
10 hrs

agree  Neil Ashby
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agree  Zilin Cui: http://www.linguee.com/english-spanish?query=macroestado&sou...
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macronation


Explanation:
Obviously what lies behind this term is what is conventionally called regional nationalism. Spain is a "macroestado" from the point of view of regional nationalists, mostly Catalans and Basques, of course, but also some others.

In the website Phil has cited, these people usually refer to their regions (to use the conventional term) as "micronaciones". And in English the usual terms used are "micronation" and "macronation".

It must be said that in the recent furore over the Catalan Estatut, the point of contention was the use of the term "nation" rather than "state". In the preamble to the draft Statute, which the Constitutional Court eventually threw out, the Catalans claimed to be a nation; they didn't claim to be a state.

Of course you could argue that since "macroestado" rather than "macronación" has been used in Spanish, we should use "macrostate" rather than "macronation" in English, and I see the logic of that; but I since the latter is much more usual than the former among those who think and write like this, I'd be inclined to go with "macronation".

http://fifthworld.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Macronations_and_Mi...

"A macronation is what some micronationalists call recognized, sovereign and independent states. This term is used more often than previously mentioned terms, because it represents fully recognized nation or a UN member."
http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Macronation

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It looks to me as though "macrostate" is normally applied to things like the EU, comprising a group of nation states. Its use here applied to Spain is a bit anomalous.

Charles Davis
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Elena Salgado was finance minister and deputy prime minister.


    Reference: http://intermicronacional.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/macroesta...
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Reference: Macrostate

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Between 30 million and 100 million inhabitants


    Reference: http://www.virtualcampuses.eu/index.php/All_countries_by_pop...
Catherine Gilsenan
United Kingdom
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