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constituer les tours de table

03:58 May 1, 2013
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French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / in sustainable development context
French term or phrase: constituer les tours de table
In this passage, the difficulty of business development in a Third Word setting is being discussed in a report by NGO

"En 2012 l’activité de l’immobilier entreprise et commercial a fait l’objet de 14 nouveaux projets engagés (18 en 2011), pour un montant d’investissement de la Caisse de XXX de 27 M€ (47 M€ en 2011), en raison des difficultés liées à la conjoncture économique (pré-commercialisation difficile, réticence des banques, difficulté pour constituer les tours de table…)."

any ideas? My hunch is something like "to put all your ducks in a row"???
Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 16:21


Summary of answers provided
4 +6finding financial backers
polyglot45
3 +1establishing round tables
Catharine Cellier-Smart
4setting up pools, capital rounds
Peter LEGUIE
4setting up / organising task forces
Jane Proctor (X)
4undertaking consultations
AllegroTrans
4to find backers
torjman
3... financing rounds
rkillings


Discussion entries: 5





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
establishing round tables


Explanation:
i.e. the difficulty of establishing round table discussions

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-05-01 05:14:53 GMT)
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I don't see why not, but maybe we don't have the same understanding of what a "round table" is?

Catharine Cellier-Smart
Reunion
Local time: 03:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 137
Notes to answerer
Asker: Catharine, thanks for the suggestion, but when you consider the context (problems encountered in establishing a business) I think it has little if anything to do with "round table discussions."


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daryo: that's what it is "a round table" discussing the project http://www.alternatives-economiques.fr/constituer-un-tour-de...
2 hrs
  -> thank you Daryo
neutral  nordiste: "Constituer un tour de table" n'est pas "organiser une table ronde" .
5 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
setting up pools, capital rounds


Explanation:
This must be the meaning, even if not the best formulation, considering the context.

Peter LEGUIE
Local time: 01:21
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
setting up / organising task forces


Explanation:
Here's the relevant part of an article entitled "Constituer un tour de table financier" (link below)

"Tout d’abord, ne pas travailler son projet seul, quelle que soit sa taille, et confronter les points de vue. Créer une entreprise est – et restera – techniquement compliqué. Il est donc indispensable de s’entourer de personnes compétentes, soit issues de son entourage proche, soit trouvées dans les réseaux d’accompagnement."

"Task force" or "group of industry experts" seems to fit the bill.

Task force is a favourite NGO word!


    Reference: http://www.alternatives-economiques.fr/constituer-un-tour-de...
Jane Proctor (X)
France
Local time: 01:21
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 15
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
... financing rounds


Explanation:
Peter LEGUIE has the right idea, but 'pools' is not the right word and 'capital rounds' is not idiomatic.

How you deal with "constituer" depends on how you translate the preceding part of the sentence. One approach could be
'... banks hesitant to lend, investors reluctant to participate in financing rounds ...'

rkillings
United States
Local time: 16:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 278
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
finding financial backers


Explanation:
http://www.trader-finance.fr/lexique-finance/definition-lett... de table
Le tour de table est la réunion de différents investisseurs qui s’engagent à apporter un certain montant de capitaux pour réaliser une opération telle qu’une prise de participation ou une augmentation de capital.

Le tour de table permet principalement de faire se rencontrer les différents financeurs, d’estimer les forces et faiblesses d'un projet et de répartir le risque tout en réunissant les financements nécessaires.

In this particular context, it is not so much the session where they meet but the upshot of the meeting. The difficulties are in getting enough backers to come to the party

polyglot45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 88

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Victoria Britten: I think this has to be right, given the context
1 hr
agree  Zoe Beal: or "securing funding"?
2 hrs
agree  nordiste
2 hrs
agree  Zsuzsanna Dr Sassiné Riffer: the whole context revolves around financing projects, so this seems to be the right solution.
2 hrs
agree  EirTranslations
3 hrs
agree  rkillings: Although in practice the term is used more figuratively to mean the investors as a group, i.e. those entitled to be at the table *because they put up money*, whether or not a physical meeting of the investors' representatives ever takes place.
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
undertaking consultations


Explanation:
I think this is nearer to the ST

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:21
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2 days 18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
to find backers


Explanation:
ou bien find financial bakers

torjman
Tunisia
Local time: 00:21
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
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