cadre ludique

English translation: educational games context/framework/setting

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French term or phrase:cadre ludique
English translation:educational games context/framework/setting
Entered by: Isabelle Barth-O'Neill

09:18 Apr 17, 2013
French to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy / création d'espace jeu
French term or phrase: cadre ludique
Terme très clair en français

Je ne trouve pas d'équivalent qui me plaise vraiment en anglais
Voici la phrase

Le jeu, occupation séparée du reste de l'existence, doit se reposer sur des limites définies par le « cadre ludique ».
Les animateurs locaux, formés aux différents aspects du jeu, seront à même de définir les critères de ce « cadre ludique », qui répondent aux besoins identifiés des enfants.

Le terme est employé souvent dans le document

Merci
Isabelle Barth-O'Neill
Local time: 11:02
educational games context/framework/setting
Explanation:
Depending on the sentence, "cadre" could be translated as context, framework or setting.

"Educational games" (or possibly "educational activities") for "ludique" as the idea expressed is that play serves to educate children.
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cchat
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1depends
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
3 +1play activity
B D Finch
3 +1recreational framework
Verginia Ophof
4game-like setting (or game or play-like setting)
MatthewLaSon
3educational games context/framework/setting
cchat
3early learning theme
Jane F
3play environment
Catharine Cellier-Smart
1 +1play context
Tony M


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educational games context/framework/setting


Explanation:
Depending on the sentence, "cadre" could be translated as context, framework or setting.

"Educational games" (or possibly "educational activities") for "ludique" as the idea expressed is that play serves to educate children.

cchat
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 199
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neutral  B D Finch: The problem with the term "educational games" is that it fails to recognise that children's natural play activity is of developmental importance.
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play context


Explanation:
I always find these sorts of terms a pain too! I think it is just that the concepts aren't the same in EN.

Try this as a possible starting point, at least.

Tony M
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agree  philgoddard
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early learning theme


Explanation:
Inspired by a British shop of the same name that sells toys which aim to help children to learn through play.

Jane F
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depends


Explanation:
Suggestion :

For the sentence you have given by way of example, I think the fact that "le jeu" appears at the beginning means that you can express the sentence in such a way that "ludique" can be considered as included.

"Play is an occupation apart and must remain within defined limits."

I know this suggestion seems to ignore "existence" but to add "in life" or "in one's existence" seems to make so much of it, seems so unnatural in English, I'd drop it altogether.

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Note added at 29 mins (2013-04-17 09:48:06 GMT)
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If you feel you ought to develop the idea of existence, then

"Throughout life, play is an occupation apart ..."

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 12:02
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 148

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agree  Daryo: "Play ... within defined limits" yes, something along these lines
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play environment


Explanation:
another suggestion

see

"A rich play environment is one where children and young people are able to make a wide range of choices; where there are many possibilities so that they can invent and extend their own play."
http://hastac.org/blogs/suppak2/designing-play-environment-d...

Get set for life: Structuring the play environment
http://www.canadianliving.com/moms/toddlers/get_set_for_life...

http://www.playconsulting.com

Catharine Cellier-Smart
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play activity


Explanation:
Le jeu, occupation séparée du reste de l'existence, doit se reposer sur des limites définies par le « cadre ludique ».

Play ... must stay within the bounds defined as "play activity". What exactly these bounds are meant to divide it from is not clear. It is likely to be dividing play and educational activity and/or play and other social interaction.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 12:02
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agree  Catherine Gilsenan
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recreational framework


Explanation:
......

Example sentence(s):
  • His objective: that the young people put their theoretical knowledge into practice in a recreational framework, in order to reinforce the students' interest in science and techniques

    Reference: http://www.linguee.com/french-english/translation/cadre+ludi...
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Local time: 04:02
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PRO pts in category: 18

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agree  papier
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game-like setting (or game or play-like setting)


Explanation:
Hello,

My try...

cadre = setting

ludique = game-like (same as "play", but if you insist "game or play-like setting)

You have to find out what we naturally say i in English, of course!

Educational apps for the iPad, iPhone, iPod touch with emphasis on science ... and volcanoes is explored in a game-like setting and with informative animations.
http://www.apps4education.com/


The brewing crisis threatening computer science education is a well documented fact. ... This provides a game-like setting for writing computer programs, using a ...
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1282048



I hope this helps.






MatthewLaSon
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