¡mierda!

Italian translation: cazzo!

13:40 Feb 17, 2013
Spanish to Italian translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / S. XVIII, settecento
Spanish term or phrase: ¡mierda!
... o cualquier exclamación de contrarierad intensa.

("¡Mierda!. Se me había olvidado completamente")

Espero que no sea un problema preguntar por aquí. Traigo entre manos una novela histórica y uno de los personajes, aunque vive en Madrid, es de origen italiano. Está ambientada en el 1730. La novela, evidentemente, está escrita en español pero de vez en cuando, al personaje se le escapa alguna palabra malsonante, alguna exclamación de sorpresa o un refrán en italiano.

Las expresiones deberían de ser en italiano de la época. Del mismo modo que a lo que hoy exclamaríamos en español algo así como "¡Joder, por lo que veo...!", en español de Cervantes sería "¡Pardiez, que según diviso...!"

He conseguido algunos glosarios y diccionarios como referencia pero no encuentro exclamaciones o palabras malsonantes. Agradecería muchísimo (inmensamente) cualquier ayuda (a poder ser con referencias fiables) con esta y otras palabras.
MPTierno
Local time: 05:45
Italian translation:cazzo!
Explanation:
Io userei quella parola, come imprecazione. Si usa da molti secoli. Ovviamente è volgare, come quella in spagnolo. Spero ti serva.
Selected response from:

Maria Clara Canzani
Argentina
Local time: 01:45
Grading comment
Thanks everybody. All the answers were useful but I chose this one because of the reference to Benedetto XIV using this word in the 18th century.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +3merda
Elena Zanetti
4cazzo!
Maria Clara Canzani
Summary of reference entries provided
porca puttana!
Maria Assunta Puccini

Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
cazzo!


Explanation:
Io userei quella parola, come imprecazione. Si usa da molti secoli. Ovviamente è volgare, come quella in spagnolo. Spero ti serva.


    Reference: http://www.magiadellascrittura.it/?p=3071
Maria Clara Canzani
Argentina
Local time: 01:45
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thanks everybody. All the answers were useful but I chose this one because of the reference to Benedetto XIV using this word in the 18th century.
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
merda


Explanation:
userei questa..

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 37 min (2013-02-17 14:17:38 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

che è sempre stata usata. ..

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 9 ore (2013-02-17 22:48:49 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

perbacco /per dio /diamine....

Elena Zanetti
Italy
Local time: 05:45
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 50

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Angie Garbarino
27 mins
  -> grazie !

agree  Maria Alvarez
1 hr
  -> grazie!

agree  Giovanna Alessandra Meloni
1 hr
  -> grazie!
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Reference comments


16 hrs
Reference: porca puttana!

Reference information:
Tal vez esto te pueda servir:

"...L’altra occorrenza duecentesca di puttana si trova (in due occorrenze) nell’Elegia giudeo-italiana, che riportiamo nel testo...
...
47 Oltre che come ingiuria, il termine entra in imprecazioni (Porca puttana!, puttana Eva!, ecc.) tuttora in uso."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=dardano, giovanardi &...



--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 16 horas (2013-02-18 06:36:52 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Parece que el enlace no sale completo. Yo busqué con google
"Dardano, Giovanardi & Palermo. Pragmatica dell'ingiuria nell'italiano antico" (sin comillas); el archivo aparece entre los resultados con "[PDF] Scarica questo file PDF"

Maria Assunta Puccini
Colombia
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 35
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)



Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs (or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.

KudoZ™ translation help

The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.


See also:
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search