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unfrei ab Lager

English translation: from the warehouse, freight collect

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German term or phrase:unfrei ab Lager
English translation:from the warehouse, freight collect
Entered by: Peter Nutting

14:48 Jan 9, 2013
German to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Transport / Transportation / Shipping
German term or phrase: unfrei ab Lager
The following sentence is confusing me somewhat:

Die Preise für manche Möbel, Bodenbeläge und dem Zubehör sind unfrei ab Lager Filderstadt.

First of all, I'm uncertain as to how to translate 'unfrei' despite having looked at many suggestions. I'm also not sure as to whether 'ab Lager' here means 'ex works' or 'from the Filderstadt warehouse' or whether 'unfrei ab Lager' means something in particular altogether. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

This comes from the 'Auftragsannahme und Preise' section of a company's terms and conditions.
Charlotte Farrell
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:20
from the warehouse, freight collect
Explanation:
see Leo and link below
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Peter Nutting
United States
Local time: 11:20
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3from the warehouse, freight collect
Peter Nutting
4 +1an additional charge is made for delivering ...from the warehouse
philgoddard
5 -2Freight Payable at destination
Salih YILDIRIM
4 -1Ex Works
Pauline Alexiou
3 -1carriage forward ex works
Judith den Otter
Summary of reference entries provided
Info
Kim Metzger

  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
carriage forward ex works


Explanation:
unfrei= carriage forward
ab Lager = ex works

Judith den Otter
Germany
Local time: 17:20
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: A Lager is a warehouse. Ab Werk is ex works.
2 hrs
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
from the warehouse, freight collect


Explanation:
see Leo and link below


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOB_%28shipping%29
Peter Nutting
United States
Local time: 11:20
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 11

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michael Martin, MA: Yes, freight collect ex und hopp, sorry, ex warehouse
16 mins
  -> Thanks, Michael.
agree  gangels (X): should be: "...DES ZubehörS..."
56 mins
  -> Thanks.
agree  Christina Bergmann
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Christina.
neutral  philgoddard: This implies that you have to collect it yourself or pay someone else to do so, which does not appear to be the case. It says "die Preise sind unfrei", which to me implies "we do deliver, but it's not free".
4 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
an additional charge is made for delivering ...from the warehouse


Explanation:
I think a plain English translation would be better - things like "carriage forward ex works" and "freight collect" sound oldfashioned, and ordinary members of the public won't understand them. So:

An additional charge is made for delivering some items of furniture, floor coverings and accessories from our Filderstadt warehouse.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 79

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cetacea: I'd prefer plain German in the original as well, but I'm not sure these terms are actually aimed at the general public.
18 hrs
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Freight Payable at destination


Explanation:
Imho

Salih YILDIRIM
United States
Local time: 11:20
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Kim Metzger: ab Lager = ex warehouse http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=ex-warehouse
7 mins
disagree  Cetacea: ab Lager = ex warehouse.
8 hrs
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Ex Works


Explanation:
EXW or Ex Works means that a seller has the goods ready for collection at his premises (works, factory, warehouse, plant) on the date agreed upon. The buyer pays all transportation costs and also bears the risks for bringing the goods to their final destination

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2013-01-10 16:36:00 GMT)
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the goods are ready for collection at the premises which can mean factory or wharehouse etc and this is an international term as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms
but you could also say "ex wharehouse Filderstadt"

Example sentence(s):
  • Ex Works
Pauline Alexiou
Local time: 18:20
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: We've already had this, and I pointed out that it's wrong.
4 hrs
  -> I am sorry to disagree with you but I have worked in a purchasing department and this is the official term used .... but thanks anyway and have a nice evening
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Reference comments


18 mins
Reference: Info

Reference information:
Der Begriff "Freight Prepaid" bezeichnet das Gegenstück von "Freight Collect", also die Verpflichtung der Übernahme von Transportkosten durch den Absender.

http://www.vnl.at/Freight-Prepaid.251.0.html

Der Begriff "Freight Collect" beschreibt im Transportwesen die Verpflichtung für den Empfänger, die Transportkosten für die Beförderung einer Ware zu übernehmen.

http://www.vnl.at/Freight-Collect.250.0.html

Kim Metzger
Mexico
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 558
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