jours de repos forfaitaires

14:16 Oct 18, 2012 

these are among the people who have signed an agreement "forfait jour" ... I think.

08:51 Oct 18, 2012 

These are clearly days off given in addition to the normal annual leave in recognition of extra travel or time worked. As I understand it, rather than the number of extra days being precisely calculated for each person concerned according to what extra travel etc. they undertook, there is a fixed number of days awarded according to a generalised schedule. It is "réservé aux cadres" simply because these are the people expected to be flexible in their travel and working hours in order to fulfil the demands of their jobs.

18:23 Oct 17, 2012 

ici veut dire en gros que c'est réservé aux cadres, naturellement en plus du sens connu de "flat"

14:56 Oct 15, 2012 

After reading Article 3, where RTT days are described as "jours de repos" (though not exclusively so), I think the "jours de repos" is used in the UES SFR document (lacfdtsfr.fr) as a general term – something like "days off." But that still leaves us with "forfaitaire"... ;-)

14:40 Oct 15, 2012 

doc cfdt I cited.
There you'll find all the days off an employee (mostly cadres) under forfait jours are entitled to. On top of it, some of them at the top are entitled to JRF (art. 19, 20 later on in the doc.)

14:40 Oct 15, 2012 

"Day of rest" sounds very religious, which makes me think the writer of your reference was francophone. I had considered "rest days", but a quick Google check revealed that this is, nowadays, mainly used in the context of sports training and competitions, rather than employment. It was certainly used in an employment context in the past.

14:34 Oct 15, 2012 

And yet there is "jours de week-end" two ticks after "jours de repos forfaitaires" in Contexts 1 & 2... (though the Canadian site you cite simply uses "day of rest" for "jour de repos" and doesn't involve "forfaitaire" at all)

14:20 Oct 15, 2012 

The Quebec govermental site(http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/tbm_11a/2-fra.asp) defines "jour de repos (day of rest)
désigne
a) pour un employé à temps plein un jour, à l'exception d'un jour férié, pendant lequel l'employé n'est pas ordinairement tenu d'accomplir les fonctions de son poste pour d'autres raisons que du fait qu'il est en congé;
b) pour un employé à temps partiel un jour pendant lequel un employé n'est pas ordinairement tenu d'accomplir les fonctions de son poste pour d'autres raisons que du fait qu'il est en congé. Deux (2) jours de repos par semaine sont désignés jour de repos à l'égard des employés à temps partiel. Ceci n'inclut pas les journées de travail non prévues à l'horaire; journée de travail non prévue à l'horaire (non-scheduled working day)
désigne une journée de travail imprévue ou qui ne fait pas partie de l'horaire régulier de l'employé;
journées de rémunération (compensation days)
désigne les journées que compte une période de paye à l'exception des jours habituels de repos;

13:27 Oct 15, 2012 

The more I think about it, the more I am irked by your term being used both in the heading of 4.2.4 and as an element in the list that follows that heading. :-(

09:17 Oct 15, 2012 

You might try "compensatory leave" as the expression. It would seem to fit your reuirements. Ref.http://www.dhrm.virginia.gov/hrpolicy/web/pol3_10.html.

09:07 Oct 15, 2012 

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/other/4956596-jo... .
Pour une certaine catégorie de cadres = cadres de direction parmi tous ceux qui ont signé la convention forfait jour (=cadres + salariés non-cadre qui disposent d’une réelle autonomie),
en plus de tous les autres congés
et en plus des RTT
http://www.lacfdtsfr.fr/uploads/documents/publique/Accords/A...
Art 7-8 forfaits jours ; art 19-20 cadres dirigeants JRF

09:01 Oct 15, 2012 

It's definitely not comp time because it is a set amount of days off. Plus, comp time is already used and this is included with various measures for providing different means of comp time and leave for people who work reduced weekly schedules, work weekends or a holiday, work overtime, or have to travel or work on a day when they are regularly scheduled off. Apparently these are set days off that they are entitled to from what I understand. There may not be an equivalent in English.

07:37 Oct 15, 2012 

In English we generally use "compensatory time off" as a opposed to days off.

01:43 Oct 15, 2012 

Whatever are "lump sum days off"? :-|

01:41 Oct 15, 2012 

Hi Guys, this is a tricky one because they talk about compensatory days off in other sections and so this is one that is specific. Could it be something like "lump-sum days off" or something similar? It's definitely a French concept within all the comp day scheme they have to make up for extra hours worked, days worked, or keeping a shorter work week... but there is mention in this text of RTTs, compensatory days off, etc...

01:39 Oct 15, 2012 

There seems to be some contextual spillover regarding "jours de repos forfaitaires" in your text:
• First, in Context 1, it's the title of section 4.2.4, but the text that follows is abut "jours de RTT" – namely how they can be used in conjunction with other days off, including with "jours de repos forfaitaires." Is the title wrong? If not, then why would the text be self-referential?
• Then Contexts 3 and 4 make "jours de repos forfaitaire" sound like travel days.
So... which is it to be?