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Istituto di istruzione superiore

English translation: Senior high school

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Italian term or phrase:Istituto di istruzione superiore
English translation:Senior high school
Entered by: James (Jim) Davis

09:28 Sep 10, 2012
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy
Italian term or phrase: Istituto di istruzione superiore
How would you translate " Istituto di istruzione superiore: istituto professionale per i servizi commerciali e turistici" in English? Is part of a diploma.

Thanks!
Martina Agnes
Italy
Local time: 12:45
Senior high school
Explanation:
You could qualify it with "Technical senior high school specialising in... "
There are no near equivalents in the UK or US (which would mislead if used) so you need something which gets the age group and describes it a bit.

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Note added at 20 mins (2012-09-10 09:49:30 GMT)
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This is secondary education after la media and before university, so it is not primary and it is not "tertiary" or higher education, but upper secondary, where the "media" is lower secondary.

Just one example of thousands.
http://www.liceo-machiavelli.it/
Istituto di Istruzione Superiore "N. Machiavelli"
Benvenuto nel sito dell'Istituto di Istruzione Superiore "N. Machiavelli".




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Liceo delle Scienze Umane

Liceo delle Scienze Umane - opzione Economico-sociale

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James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 14:45
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4higher education college
Thomas Roberts
4 +4Senior high school
James (Jim) Davis
4 +1higher education institution
bluedahlia
5High School Institute for Skills
Ernesto Schintu
3II Grade Secondary Education:
bluenoric


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0 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
higher education college


Explanation:
suggestion

Thomas Roberts
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Judith McLean: or Institute of Higher Education
2 mins
agree  Alison Kennedy
3 mins
agree  Tom in London
14 mins
neutral  James (Jim) Davis: I think most people would consider university as higher education, while you start an istituto di istruzione superiore at the age of 13 or 14 so it is partly compulsory schooling.
23 mins
  -> good point
agree  Lucia Valentino: aggiungere anche technical
2 hrs
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
higher education institution


Explanation:
Direi così.

considerando che, vista la grande diversità dei sistemi di istruzione nella Comunità, la definizione del termine «istituto di istruzione superiore» utilizzata nella presente raccomandazione comprende tutti i tipi di istituti che conferiscono qualifiche o titoli di tale livello, indipendentemente dalla loro denominazione negli Stati membri;

Whereas, in view of the great diversity of education systems in the Community, the definition of the term 'higher education institution` to which the recommendation refers includes all the types of institutions which confer qualifications or degrees at this level irrespective of how they are described in the Member States;
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?mode=dbl&lang=it&ihmlang=...


bluedahlia
Italy
Local time: 12:45
Native speaker of: Italian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Isabelle Johnson
2 mins
  -> Thank you Isabelle.
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Senior high school


Explanation:
You could qualify it with "Technical senior high school specialising in... "
There are no near equivalents in the UK or US (which would mislead if used) so you need something which gets the age group and describes it a bit.

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Note added at 20 mins (2012-09-10 09:49:30 GMT)
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This is secondary education after la media and before university, so it is not primary and it is not "tertiary" or higher education, but upper secondary, where the "media" is lower secondary.

Just one example of thousands.
http://www.liceo-machiavelli.it/
Istituto di Istruzione Superiore "N. Machiavelli"
Benvenuto nel sito dell'Istituto di Istruzione Superiore "N. Machiavelli".




Liceo Classico:

Liceo delle Scienze Umane

Liceo delle Scienze Umane - opzione Economico-sociale

Primo piano

James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 14:45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 149

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Oliver Lawrence
20 mins
agree  bluenoric
1 hr
agree  Thomas Roberts
1 hr
agree  Linda Thody: Also perhaps "Sixth Form College" (UK), many of which now also offer vocational courses, and cover the last 2 years of senior school. Yes Jim! Guess you're right. In the UK it is an AS/A level subject, but best to keep it simple as the systems differ!
2 hrs
  -> It would have to be a fourth fifth and lower, middel and upper sixth form college Linda. This is just normal *mainstream" upper secondary schooling.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
II Grade Secondary Education:


Explanation:
Professional Institute for Trade and Turism

I like Jim´s suggestion too, you don´t need to overdo with higher and college since until a few years ago with such a diploma you couldn´t even get access to university.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Italy
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_education#Italy
bluenoric
Germany
Local time: 12:45
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  James (Jim) Davis: Hi Blue. In the united states the second grade is around age 7-8, the second year of primary school, I think.
1 hr
  -> thank you Jim, then just drop the II Grade, I just noticed it is redundant anyway, Secondary Education should be enough
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
High School Institute for Skills


Explanation:
Non credo che esista una controparte in America.

Ernesto Schintu
Italy
Local time: 12:45
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in SpanishSpanish
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