getting up

English translation: acquiring a working knowledge of

11:46 Sep 8, 2012
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English term or phrase: getting up
Mrs. Trenor sat up with an exclamation. "Lily!——PERCY? Do you mean to say you've actually done it?"

Miss Bart smiled. "I only mean to say that Mr. Gryce and I are getting to be very good friends."

"H'm—I see." Mrs. Trenor fixed a rapt eye upon her. "You know they say he has eight hundred thousand a year—and spends nothing, except on some rubbishy old books. And his mother has heart-disease and will leave him a lot more. OH, LILY, DO GO SLOWLY," her friend adjured her.

Miss Bart continued to smile without annoyance. "I shouldn't, for instance," she remarked, "be in any haste to tell him that he had a lot of rubbishy old books."

"No, of course not; I know you're wonderful about ------------------getting up --------------------------people's subjects. But he's horribly shy, and easily shocked, and—and——"

"Why don't you say it, Judy? I have the reputation of being on the hunt for a rich husband?"

Thank you!
Michael Kislov
Russian Federation
Local time: 15:40
Selected answer:acquiring a working knowledge of
Explanation:
To "get up" a project or a piece of work can mean to prepare and organise it, but I have never seen "getting up" a subject used to mean introducing it into the conversation and have not managed to find it used with this meaning. However, it is a fairly common expression for acquiring a knowledge of a subject, usually with the implication that the knowledge is rapidly acquired and suitable for practical purposes but not very profound. It is applied, for example, to studying for an exam, or to a lawyer preparing a case:

"8. informal ( tr ) to study or improve one's knowledge of: I must get up my history "
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/get up?r=66

"The ability to get up a subject quickly and to hold it clearly for a temporary purpose is not here in question"
Modern Methods of Teaching History
http://books.google.es/books?id=-KhLqJSLxZ8C&pg=PA128&lpg=PA...

It can also imply a more thorough knowledge:

"To _get up a subject_, is to make one's self thoroughly master of
it.--_Bristed_."
Benjamin Homer Hall, A Collection of College Words and Customs
http://www.fullbooks.com/A-Collection-of-College-Words-and-C...

This use of "up" or "get up" was certainly current in the early twentieth century when Edith Wharton wrote this passage. To be "up in" or "well up in" a subject is commonly found in nineteenth-century texts. Here is an article published in the New York Times in 1916 on Lloyd George, in which it comments on his "nimble and acquisitive mind":

"He is much better at getting up a subject than at getting into it. One may whether he ever spent a year s hard thinking on anything"
(last part of last column)
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F20C16FF3E...

This reflects the "working knowledge" idea.

So what Mrs Trenor is saying is that Lily is very good at learning about people's favourite subjects (or perhaps finding out what they are). So she is well prepared to talk about them.
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Charles Davis
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bring the conversation around to


Explanation:
She is very good at bringing a conversation around to subjects that interest the other person, in this case Mr. Gryce's old books. (See Webster Dictionary definition below.)

Example sentence(s):
  • To get up, to prepare and introduce upon the stage; to bring forward.

    Reference: http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?action=search&word=get&resource...
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acquiring a working knowledge of


Explanation:
To "get up" a project or a piece of work can mean to prepare and organise it, but I have never seen "getting up" a subject used to mean introducing it into the conversation and have not managed to find it used with this meaning. However, it is a fairly common expression for acquiring a knowledge of a subject, usually with the implication that the knowledge is rapidly acquired and suitable for practical purposes but not very profound. It is applied, for example, to studying for an exam, or to a lawyer preparing a case:

"8. informal ( tr ) to study or improve one's knowledge of: I must get up my history "
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/get up?r=66

"The ability to get up a subject quickly and to hold it clearly for a temporary purpose is not here in question"
Modern Methods of Teaching History
http://books.google.es/books?id=-KhLqJSLxZ8C&pg=PA128&lpg=PA...

It can also imply a more thorough knowledge:

"To _get up a subject_, is to make one's self thoroughly master of
it.--_Bristed_."
Benjamin Homer Hall, A Collection of College Words and Customs
http://www.fullbooks.com/A-Collection-of-College-Words-and-C...

This use of "up" or "get up" was certainly current in the early twentieth century when Edith Wharton wrote this passage. To be "up in" or "well up in" a subject is commonly found in nineteenth-century texts. Here is an article published in the New York Times in 1916 on Lloyd George, in which it comments on his "nimble and acquisitive mind":

"He is much better at getting up a subject than at getting into it. One may whether he ever spent a year s hard thinking on anything"
(last part of last column)
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F20C16FF3E...

This reflects the "working knowledge" idea.

So what Mrs Trenor is saying is that Lily is very good at learning about people's favourite subjects (or perhaps finding out what they are). So she is well prepared to talk about them.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 14:40
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 572

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