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ustrelna vs. prostrelna rana

English translation: penetrating vs. perforating gunshot wound

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Serbian term or phrase:ustrelna vs. prostrelna rana
English translation:penetrating vs. perforating gunshot wound
Entered by: Natasa Djurovic

13:17 Aug 29, 2012
Serbian to English translations [PRO]
Medical (general) / Hemothorax
Serbian term or phrase: ustrelna vs. prostrelna rana
Pošto već imam ideju kakva razlika je podvučena u vezi sa vrstom rane, ne bih da aludiram, nego molim za vaše mišljenje povodom ovoga.
Natasa Djurovic
Serbia
Local time: 08:31
penetrating vs. perforating gunshot wound
Explanation:
Background on Gunshot Wounds

Gunshot wounds can be either penetrating or perforating.
In a penetrating wound, the bullet enters an object and remains inside, while in a perforating wound, the bullet passes completely through the object.
In some cases, the wound can be both penetrating and perforating, in that it penetrates some part of the body, such as the head, but perforates certain parts, such as the skull or brain.
[http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/]

"ustrelna vs. prostrelna rana" is not about any injury, it's specifically a gunshot wound
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:31
Grading comment
Hvala gunshot sasvim odgovara :)
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4penetrating vs. perforating gunshot wound
Daryo
5 +2penetrating vs perforating injury
Sladjana Daniels
4 -1gunshot/bullet wound vs. entry-and-exit (gunshot) wound
Pavle Perencevic


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
gunshot/bullet wound vs. entry-and-exit (gunshot) wound


Explanation:
Mislim da je razlika očigledna..

Pavle Perencevic
Canada
Local time: 23:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: to nije bas tako ocigledno
58 mins
disagree  Aleksandar Skobic: Не бих ни ја рекао да је тако.
2 hrs
  -> Slažem se!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
penetrating vs. perforating gunshot wound


Explanation:
Background on Gunshot Wounds

Gunshot wounds can be either penetrating or perforating.
In a penetrating wound, the bullet enters an object and remains inside, while in a perforating wound, the bullet passes completely through the object.
In some cases, the wound can be both penetrating and perforating, in that it penetrates some part of the body, such as the head, but perforates certain parts, such as the skull or brain.
[http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/]

"ustrelna vs. prostrelna rana" is not about any injury, it's specifically a gunshot wound

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Hvala gunshot sasvim odgovara :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mira Stepanovic: http://www.freemd.com/gunshot-wounds/types.htm Gunshot Wounds Types Types of gunshot wounds include: Penetrating wounds Which only have an entrance wound. Perforating wounds Which have both entrance and exit wounds.
1 min
  -> Hvala!
agree  Aleksandar Skobic
58 mins
  -> Hvala!
neutral  Sladjana Daniels: Firearm je širi termin od gunshot http://forensicpathologyonline.com/index.php?option=com_cont... ili http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1975428-overview. Kod ustrelina je reč o bilo kom projektilu iz vatrenog oružja.
4 hrs
  -> slazem se da je mozda "firearm" bolji izbor nego "gunshot". Hvala!
agree  Nikola Bijelić, MD, PhD: Perforating se može dopuniti i sa through-and-through, jer "perforating wound" ne podrazumijeva uvijek izlaznu ranu .http://www.mymedal.org/index.php?n=Military.295002
19 hrs
  -> Hvala!
agree  John Farebrother
2953 days
  -> Хвала!
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
penetrating vs perforating injury


Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetrating_trauma

Ovo su termini iz sudske medicine. Kod ustrelne rane metak je ušao u telo i ostao tu (postoji samo ulazna rana), dok je kod prostrelne izašao iz tela (postoji ulazna i izlazna rana).

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-29 14:44:16 GMT)
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Da, naravno, ukoliko su neke druge oblasti specijalnosti u pitanju slobodno može da se kaže penetrantna rana za ustrelnu. Međutim, u sudskoj medicini se ne koristi latinski niti latinizmi, pa se onda obavezno kaže ustrelna, prostrelna i zastrelna rana.

Sladjana Daniels
Serbia
Local time: 08:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Serbian
PRO pts in category: 153
Notes to answerer
Asker: Tako sam i mislila jer ustrelnu ranu doktori nazivaju i penetranta rana, ako sam dobro shvatila.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Branka Ramadanovic
11 mins
neutral  Daryo: penetrating vs perforating - da, ali "injury" nije dovoljno precizno, "ustrelna ili prostrelna rana" je samo od vatrenog oruzja => gunshot wound
40 mins
agree  Aleksandar Skobic: Колега, не мора да значи, прострелна рана настаје и од ножа, копља, стреле и сл.
1 hr
neutral  Nikola Bijelić, MD, PhD: S jedne strane injury nije dovoljno precizno, a s druge strane perforatinfg injury može npr. značiti i ubodna rana abdomena s perforacijom crijeva, a bez izlazne rane. Ovo je nažalost preopćenit odgovor.
20 hrs
  -> Da, objasnila sam gore u polju za diskusiju. Ja sam se usredsredila na razliku, ali mora se dodati firearm.
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