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rente

English translation: payment, annuity

10:12 Aug 21, 2012
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Bus/Financial - Law (general) / social security contributions
French term or phrase: rente
As appearing in the following phrase:

"Considérant que, selon les députés requérants, en ne rendant cette modification de taux applicable qu’aux rentes versées au titre des retraites liquidées à compter du 1 janvier 2013, ces dispositions instituent une différence de traitement avec les retraites liquidées avant cette date qui n’est pas en lien avec l’objet de la loi"

This is a quote from the constitutional court judgment on the Loi de finances rectificative pour 2012.
Thomas Roberts
English translation:payment, annuity
Explanation:
If "retraite" means "retirement pension", then perhaps in context, "payment" would work. If this is an annual payment, then "annuity" might work. I'd like more context.

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-21 11:31:21 GMT)
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So for "rente versée" that does not give "payment paid" of course, but "payment made".
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 21:09
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Many thanks to all for your answers and comments.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3payment, annuity
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
4 +2payment
B D Finch
1pension
Tony M


  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
payment, annuity


Explanation:
If "retraite" means "retirement pension", then perhaps in context, "payment" would work. If this is an annual payment, then "annuity" might work. I'd like more context.

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-21 11:31:21 GMT)
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So for "rente versée" that does not give "payment paid" of course, but "payment made".

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 21:09
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 451
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Many thanks to all for your answers and comments.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: As you say, more context would help us be sure.
5 mins
agree  Dan Miclea: Agree with "payment made". Might also be said "funds/money allocated to/as" since this stipulates a change in the taxes applied to the funds allocated for the retirement pensions.
1 hr
agree  cc in nyc: payment
4 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
payment


Explanation:
Payments made in respect of pension funds withdrawn on or after 1 January 2013.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 21:09
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 509

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M
1 hr
  -> Thanks Tony
agree  cc in nyc: payment
4 hrs
  -> Thanks cc
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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
pension


Explanation:
I think it all depends on the wider context, in particualr,, whether we are in fact talking about 'retirement' proper, in which case, what people receive is likely to be a 'pension'.

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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-21 11:34:05 GMT)
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Note that colloquially, a (specifically) retirement pension is called a 'retraite', but that in official documents it is often classed as a 'rente' — which refers to a regular unearned income from any source, i.e. not just retirement.

Why only this morning, my friend said to me « Je touche une petite rente. »

Cf. also R+C dictionary entry:

rente nom féminin
a)
= pension annuity pension
fournie par la famille allowance

rente de situation  : secure ou guaranteed income
rente viagère  : life annuity
faire une rente à qn  : to give an allowance to sb
...


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Note added at 1 hr (2012-08-21 11:35:20 GMT)
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Apologies for messing up the formatting during copy-and-paste; that first line should have read:

= pension annuity, pension

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Note added at 5 days (2012-08-27 06:09:41 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks for your comment, Thomas; you and I know that, but sadly others are less familiar with the UK fiscal system.

Tony M
France
Local time: 21:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 258
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for this. However, I would have thought that "retraite" was a pension...

Asker: For the record, in the UK at least (though I think most other countries too), pension income is taxed as personal income. There may be different tax allowances, but pensioners are by no means exempt from taxation.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Manoj Chauhan: By mistake, I was giving the answer for rendant instead of RENTE
16 mins
  -> Thanks!
disagree  Dan Miclea: Given the entire " taux applicable qu’aux rentes" , i'm not sure a "pension" can be taxed again, since it is already the result of a life spent of taxes to ones income. So as said by Nikki I'd choose "payment made" or even "money/funds allocated to/as"
1 hr
  -> I think you are forgetting that in EN too, a 'pension' need not necessarily be a retirement pension. Given the inaccuracy of your supposition, I think your 'disagree' is unfounded.
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