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D'une première/deuxième/troisième part

English translation: party of the first part, party of the second part, party of the third part

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French term or phrase:D\'une première/deuxième/troisième part
English translation:party of the first part, party of the second part, party of the third part
Entered by: David Swain

13:40 Aug 20, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Tripartite contracts
French term or phrase: D'une première/deuxième/troisième part
From the beginning of a tripartite contract when introducing the various parties.

I normally translate "d'une part" and "d'autre" as "on the one hand" and "on the other", but "on the first/second/third hand" does not seem right. Does anyone know the standard translation for this?
David Swain
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:57
party of the first part, party of the second part, party of the third part
Explanation:
(Formulaic legal language.)

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Note added at 38 mins (2012-08-20 14:18:49 GMT)
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Party of the second part - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/party+of+the+second+part
party of the second part n. a reference to one of the parties to a written contract, as distinguished from "the party of the first part." (See: party of the first part) ...
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TechLawDC
United States
Local time: 20:57
Grading comment
Thanks for resolving this for me.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +10party of the first part, party of the second part, party of the third part
TechLawDC
4 +4first party/second party/third party
AllegroTrans
4First/Second/Third Part
Manoj Chauhan
3first/firstly/secondly/thirdly
liz askew
3three party contract between...
Mark Nathan


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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
First/Second/Third Part


Explanation:
Don't be get confused just type First/second/third part

Manoj Chauhan
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Local time: 02:57
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PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: of the first/second/third part
2 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
first/firstly/secondly/thirdly


Explanation:
Making it modern
www.thompsons.law.co.uk/ltext/l1500007.htm
It concluded that there was some contract between Mr Flett and EAB, but, whatever it ... involve a tripartite arrangement: first, between the trainee and the employer; secondly between the trainee and the training agent; and thirdly between the ... The EAT said that the tripartite agreement governing Mr Flett's situation did not fit ...

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Note added at 7 mins (2012-08-20 13:47:49 GMT)
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yes

firstly, secondly and thirdly

A licence to secure, can you bank on it? - Economic Times
articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com › Collections
6 Apr 2002 – ... in providing adequate security: firstly, the tripartite agreement does not ... from the licensee. secondly, the tripartite agreement provides that before ... in this regard is binding on the lenders. thirdly, the agreement provides for ...


liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:57
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 41

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: not for the context of "introducing the various parties"
2 hrs
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
first party/second party/third party


Explanation:
This would be the only logical way to translate it in English, since each of the named entities appears to be a party.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:57
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 527

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Another option, used in civil litigation in the UK, cf http://www.pinsentmasons.com/PDF/RequestsforFurtherInformati... After the party has been named, in brackets "the first party" is often used.
29 mins
  -> thanks!
agree  writeaway: it's not the only logical way but it works fine
1 hr
  -> thanks!
agree  cc in nyc
1 hr
  -> thanks!
agree  Daryo: there is an advantage in simplicity
14 hrs
  -> that's what I was aiming at, although I am reluctant to change legal expressions too drastically
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +10
party of the first part, party of the second part, party of the third part


Explanation:
(Formulaic legal language.)

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Note added at 38 mins (2012-08-20 14:18:49 GMT)
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Party of the second part - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/party+of+the+second+part
party of the second part n. a reference to one of the parties to a written contract, as distinguished from "the party of the first part." (See: party of the first part) ...

TechLawDC
United States
Local time: 20:57
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 25
Grading comment
Thanks for resolving this for me.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  B D Finch: Verbose, but standard and I am sure that it is deliberately used to distinguish and specify parties (persons) and parts (contractual positions).
3 mins
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_french/law:_contracts/2...
11 mins
agree  Kévin Bernier
36 mins
agree  writeaway: a bit past it's sell by/use by date but not wrong
47 mins
agree  Katarina Peters
1 hr
agree  AllegroTrans
1 hr
agree  cc in nyc
1 hr
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: had to use this in some contracts recently
1 hr
agree  ACOZ (X)
9 hrs
agree  Cyril B.: Indeed
16 hrs
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40 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
three party contract between...


Explanation:
and then you can just use numbered bullets, or say "first party, second party, etc" with colons.

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Note added at 40 mins (2012-08-20 14:20:57 GMT)
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Sorry, three-party contract (with a hyphen).

Mark Nathan
France
Local time: 02:57
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 107

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: wrong phrase translated
1 hr
  -> I was offering a slightly different contruction that I have come across several times.
neutral  AllegroTrans: you can't change the text so radically, and adding numbered bullets to a legal text would be unacceptable (unless of course they appear in the original)
1 hr
  -> Perhaps you are right, but I have seen this quite often.
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