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phase avant-série Vs phase pré-série

English translation: Prototype batch / Pre-series batch

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French term or phrase:phase avant-série / phase pré-série
English translation:Prototype batch / Pre-series batch
Entered by: Sarah Bessioud

21:26 Jul 4, 2012
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Quality management
French term or phrase: phase avant-série Vs phase pré-série
These two terms appear side by side in the project life-cycle section of a quality management document. I'm not sure what the difference is between the two terms, nor how they should be translated. Any help would be much appreciated.

Phase Avant-Série (AVS) Phase Pré-Série (PS)

They also appear as:

Lot d’AVS
Lot de PS

Unfortunately, they occur in a list so there is no surrounding context to help out.
Sarah Bessioud
Germany
Local time: 02:44
Prototype batch / Pre-series batch
Explanation:
I can't honestly see that their is a lot of difference, except perhaaps some final adjustment after the prototype batch before final series production.
Hopefully there may be other bright(er) ideas.
Off to bed!
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Bashiqa
France
Local time: 02:44
Grading comment
Thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
2 +2Prototype batch / Pre-series batch
Bashiqa
4Process verification (VP), Pre-series (PS) phases
kashew
3sample [lot or batch] Vs "batch lead"
Kiwiland Bear
4 -2pre-production phase versus post-production phase
nweatherdon


  

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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Prototype batch / Pre-series batch


Explanation:
I can't honestly see that their is a lot of difference, except perhaaps some final adjustment after the prototype batch before final series production.
Hopefully there may be other bright(er) ideas.
Off to bed!

Bashiqa
France
Local time: 02:44
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 66
Grading comment
Thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Chris. Que la nuit porte conseil ;-)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ronald van Riet: see http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-definition/série
8 hrs
  -> Merci
agree  Letredenoblesse
14 hrs
  -> Merci.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
pre-production phase versus post-production phase


Explanation:
:)

nweatherdon
Canada
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 55

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Kiwiland Bear: avant = post? Don't think so.
42 mins
disagree  Ronald van Riet: they both happen BEFORE proper production begins
7 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
sample [lot or batch] Vs "batch lead"


Explanation:
My own experience with thatb terminolgy comes from the corrugated cardboard industry but I don't think it's industry-specific, manufacturing QA is pretty much the same regardless.

- "Batch lead" is a part of a regular batch run taken up by the initial setup and fine tuning. As such, it is allowed and expected to have a higher than normal rate of defects and other issues (this is "pré-série").

- The other is a small sample run mostly for demo, proof of concept or, well, sampe purposes. Far as I know, this is a less stable term with variation possible depending on how exactly that pre-run (another name:-) small batch is used.

Kiwiland Bear
New Zealand
Local time: 12:44
Works in field
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cyril B.
1 hr
  -> Thank you.
disagree  Ronald van Riet: they both happen BEFORE proper production begins, sample would occur at various moments DURING production.
6 hrs
  -> Nope, you are totally wrong about when "sample" can occur. It's not only during production as you mistakenly think. Perhaps there is some value in reading explanation after all?
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Process verification (VP), Pre-series (PS) phases


Explanation:
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Note added at 17 heures (2012-07-05 14:37:06 GMT)
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FIAT example:
http://www.iatfglobaloversight.org/docs/CSR Annex 1_Program ...

kashew
France
Local time: 02:44
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 95
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