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occidental

English translation: in the west / in the western world

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French term or phrase:occidental
English translation:in the west / in the western world
Entered by: Kelly Harrison

06:50 Jun 14, 2012
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Marketing - Textiles / Clothing / Fashion / Clothes catalogue
French term or phrase: occidental
bonjour j'ai besoin d'aider pour finaliser la traduction de cette expression:

' les textiles techniques s'invitent dans notre garde-robe occidentale'
j'ai essayé de traduire par 'western' ou 'western looking' mais en fait ça donne plutôt dans ce cas une impression/idée de far-ouest ce qui n'est pas ce qu'on recherche.
'occidental' in English would be more suited ? or something else ?

Merci
RocMer
Local time: 20:10
in the west / in the western world
Explanation:
You're right, "western" by itself brings a ball of tumbleweed to mind - I would go for western world or even occidental.
Selected response from:

Kelly Harrison
France
Local time: 20:10
Grading comment
I put 'in your western worlds' wardrobe' - thanks;
2 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5Occidental [wardrobe]
B D Finch
3 +4in the west / in the western world
Kelly Harrison
3 +2western world clothing
mimi 254
5 -1Western
Salih YILDIRIM
4global style
Rasha Ali Hassan
4standard style of clothing
Rasha Ali Hassan
4standard wardrobe
Rasha Ali Hassan
3western hemisphere
Paula Loubier


Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


40 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
western hemisphere


Explanation:
Si vous essayiez "....in our wardrobes (here) in the western hemisphere"? Je sais que c'est un peu lourd, mais je ne vois pas d'autre solution sans le mot "west/ western". Par contre, vous éviteriez le problème de confusion avec le far-ouest.

Paula Loubier
United States
Local time: 13:10
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Edited comment : the use of "hemisphere" is much more common for north/south, due to the natural divide of the Equator. You are right, the western/eastern hemispheres do exist, but the longitud. divide is less used. My 1st comm was wrong and simplistic.
2 hrs
  -> Hmmm... Not according to worldatlas.com and the US Dept. of State
neutral  Kelly Harrison: I was going to make the same comment as you Nikki, but according to wikipedia there is such thing as a western hemisphere - although admittedly I have never heard this expression either...
2 hrs
neutral  Colin Rowe: Neither an Agree nor a Disagree with your suggestion, but certainly a Disagree with Nikki Scott-Despaigne's assertion that "western hemisphere" does not exist. The hemispheres can be northern, southern, eastern or western.
3 hrs
neutral  katsy: agree with Colin
11 hrs
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
in the west / in the western world


Explanation:
You're right, "western" by itself brings a ball of tumbleweed to mind - I would go for western world or even occidental.

Example sentence(s):
  • to our wardrobes (here) in the west
Kelly Harrison
France
Local time: 20:10
Native speaker of: English
Grading comment
I put 'in your western worlds' wardrobe' - thanks;

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne
1 hr
agree  Rasha Ali Hassan: agree
3 hrs
agree  katsy
10 hrs
agree  Vikki Pendleton
1 day 1 hr
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
western world clothing


Explanation:
wardrobe made up of western world style/fashion/clothing

mimi 254
Local time: 19:10
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: clothing in the western world
30 mins
  -> Thanks!
agree  Rasha Ali Hassan: agree
1 hr
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Occidental [wardrobe]


Explanation:
"Western" is likely be understood as Western USA (cowboy style).

afraf.oxfordjournals.org/content/48/193/333.1.full.pdf
by S SYMES - 1949
"... modern education an occidental wardrobe, and a disrupted cultural and religious life". In his judgment they have no place in the traditional social scheme and ..."



B D Finch
France
Local time: 20:10
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 112

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: occidental clothing
18 mins
  -> Thanks Nikki.
agree  Kelly Harrison
43 mins
  -> Thanks Kelly
agree  Colin Rowe: Probably safest here, given the potential for confusion with chaps, spurs and stetsons.
1 hr
  -> Thanks Colin
agree  Rasha Ali Hassan: agree
1 hr
  -> Thanks Rasha
agree  Hélène ALEXIS
21 hrs
  -> Thanks Hélène
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Western


Explanation:
Imho

Salih YILDIRIM
United States
Local time: 14:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in category: 2

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rasha Ali Hassan: Agree. However, I think the "W" should not be capitalised in this case: "western", does not have the same connotation as "Western" (as in: "Let's watch a Western tonight.") Perhaps "western-style wardrobe" could fit in this context.
1 hr
  -> Yes you are right, I used to watch Western as I did in MI-USA last six months bwhile visiting my grandsons.
disagree  Kim Metzger: Cowboy style?
2 hrs
disagree  emiledgar: Too easy to confuse with cowboy fashions
6 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
global style


Explanation:
the universal clothing styles worn in most world capitals

(since the "occidental" wardrobe is no longer restricted to Europe and North America)

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Note added at 23 hrs (2012-06-15 06:31:34 GMT)
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Would it be possible to say:

.... the occidental, now standard, style of clothing?


    Reference: http://streetpeeper.com/
Rasha Ali Hassan
Local time: 19:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArabicArabic

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Kelly Harrison: interesting and valid point, but doesn't fit very well with the context in my humble opinion.
1 hr
  -> I know what you mean. It's a tricky term to handle. In my opinion, location, audience and changing world trends in clothing, need to be taken into consideration.
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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
standard style of clothing


Explanation:
The universal type of clothes we see in most countries

Rasha Ali Hassan
Local time: 19:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArabicArabic
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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
standard wardrobe


Explanation:
universal clothing style

Rasha Ali Hassan
Local time: 19:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ArabicArabic
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