On the mental plane

French translation: dans mes pensées / dans mon esprit

17:29 May 19, 2012
English to French translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Materials (Plastics, Ceramics, etc.) / sculpture
English term or phrase: On the mental plane
An American sculptor explains his vision of a work:
On the mental plane,
A magical tower
In rainbow hues
Haunted my dreams
For a year.
kashew
France
Local time: 23:13
French translation:dans mes pensées / dans mon esprit
Explanation:
"Sur le plan mental" ne fonctionne pas, à mon avis, en français, pour ce genre de texte littéraire et dans ce contexte. "Mental" est associé à des notions médicales, ici, il s'agit de signifier l'esprit, le monde de la pensée.
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Alain Boulé
Local time: 23:13
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Summary of answers provided
4a peine conscient
HERBET Abel
3 +1Mon esprit en lévitation / altitude
Tristan Jimenez
3dans mes pensées / dans mon esprit
Alain Boulé
3Côté évocations,
ormiston
3sur le plan mental de la conscience
Anne-Marie Laliberté (X)


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on the mental plane
dans mes pensées / dans mon esprit


Explanation:
"Sur le plan mental" ne fonctionne pas, à mon avis, en français, pour ce genre de texte littéraire et dans ce contexte. "Mental" est associé à des notions médicales, ici, il s'agit de signifier l'esprit, le monde de la pensée.

Alain Boulé
Local time: 23:13
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci bcp, A.

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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
on the mental plane
a peine conscient


Explanation:
In esoteric cosmology, a plane, other than the physical plane is conceived as a subtle state of consciousness that transcends the known physical universe.
The concept may be found in religious, and esoteric teachings - e.g. Vedanta (Advaita Vedanta), Ayyavazhi, shamanism, Hermeticism, Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, Kashmir Shaivism, Sant Mat/Surat Shabd Yoga, Sufism, Druze, Kabbalah, Theosophy, Anthroposophy, Rosicrucianism (Esoteric Christian), Eckankar, Ascended Master Teachings, etc. - which propound the idea of a whole series of subtle planes or worlds or dimensions which, from a center, interpenetrate themselves and the physical planet in which we live, the solar systems, and all the physical structures of the universe. This interpenetration of planes culminates in the universe itself as a physical structured, dynamic and evolutive expression emanated through a series of steadily denser stages, becoming progressively more material and embodied.
The emanation is conceived, according to esoteric teachings, to have been originated, at the dawn of the universe's manifestation, in The Supreme Being Who sent out - from the unmanifested Absolute beyond comprehension - the dynamic force of creative energy, as sound-vibration ("the Word"), into the abyss of space. On the other hand, it states that this dynamic force is being sent forth, through the ages, framing all things that constitute and inhabit the universe.

HERBET Abel
Local time: 23:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Alain Boulé: Dans ce cas, j'aurais dit hyperconscient.
21 mins
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
on the mental plane
Mon esprit en lévitation / altitude


Explanation:
Une autre proposition..

A mon avis, il faut garder cette idée de l'esprit dans un avion, en altitude, en élévation, là-haut.. Un esprit qui voit, qui contemple les choses, sans pouvoir les analyser. Comme l'explique le texte ci-dessous, il faut différencier 'the mental plane' du 'mental train'...

"Or hop on a mental plane
I don't stay far, but this a place you can't get to in your car"
"Elzhi’s second mind traveling option is another play on words. You can travel by train or plane. Here Elzhi refers to a “mental Plane” which is the universe made up purely of thought

An airplane is very impersonal and very fast. You don’t see where you are closely only from up high. It doesn’t let you interact or analyze things as opposed to the train"
http://rapgenius.com/Elzhi-memory-lane-lyrics#note-245594

Un petit exemple de l'emploi de "esprit en lévitation"..
"Ce mirage de havre de paix n‘est retombé qu‘avec moi. Une fois de trop ébloui, l‘esprit en lévitation voguant entre les nuages, dans un trou, bien noir. Oui, la béatitude et les rêves font souvent oublier que nos pieds doivent toujours rester, eux, en contact avec le sol."
http://remitaines.com/photo/blanche-fiction/

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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-05-20 09:47:52 GMT)
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Ou peut-être même quelque chose comme "perché dans mes pensées", qui fait ressortir cette capacité de percevoir des choses d'un endroit élevé, mais dans l'incapacité d'intervenir.

Tristan Jimenez
France
Local time: 23:13
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Interesting theory, T; but the definite article puts me off the "Hopping on A plane" idea - cute though it is.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alain Boulé: ou peut être : sur les cîmes de l'esprit
1 hr
  -> merci Alain!

neutral  ormiston: I am almost sure this is the wrong idea
14 hrs
  -> it's the "haunted my dreams" that made me look for something a bit deeper. He seems to be unable to control his thoughts, "perché dans ses pensées".. I like your idea though!
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
on the mental plane
Côté évocations,


Explanation:
I honestly think that 'plane' is simply 'au niveau de...' here, nothing too lofty. He's describing what had been trotting around in his head (in his imagination) to inspire him.

To back my idea, found this:

"une étude a mis en évidence le rôle fondamental de l'évocation comme outil de la pensée. L'évocation est une image mentale, visuelle, auditive ou verbale, ...


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Note added at 17 hrs (2012-05-20 10:49:40 GMT)
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Perhaps, on reflection "dans mon imaginaire...." he's wanting it to sound a tad lyrical.....

ormiston
Local time: 23:13
Native speaker of: English
Notes to answerer
Asker: I think we are getting somewhere..., thanks.

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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
on the mental plane
sur le plan mental de la conscience


Explanation:
Il faut préciser qu'il s'agit d'un des plans de la conscience (ésotérisme, spiritualité, théosophie....) et non de la capacité mentale au sens cognitif.

Anne-Marie Laliberté (X)
Local time: 17:13
Native speaker of: French
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