gemeine Wert / Verkehrswert

English translation: "presumed/assumed" fair value / fair value

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German term or phrase:gemeine Wert / Verkehrswert
English translation:"presumed/assumed" fair value / fair value
Entered by: Ted Wozniak

17:16 Feb 23, 2012
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Austrian compensation law
German term or phrase: gemeine Wert / Verkehrswert
this concerns compensation under Austrian law for non-performance

Bei einer ausschließlich zum individuellen Gebrauch geeigneten, niemand anderem dienlichen Sache bestimmt sich der „gemeine Wert" (mangels Verkehrswertes) nach den Herstellungskosten

earlier in the text it says:

Zu ersetzen ist der „gemeine Wert", also der Verkehrswert.

Hat eine Sache keinen Verkehrswert, so sind gewöhnlich die Kosten ihrer Neuherstellung zu ersetzen.

It appears that they use gemeine Wert and Verkehrswert interchangeably.
Andre de Vries
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:52
"presumed/assumed" fair value / fair value
Explanation:
I've researched these terms for a presentation I gave on translation German tax texts. Here's an excerpt.

As defined in the German Bewertungsgesetz:

the gemeine Wert - the presumed selling price that could be attained in a normal business transaction

Der gemeine Wert als Bewertungsmassstab ist der Preis, der im gewöhnlichen Geschäftsverkehr nach der Beschaffenheit der Wirtschaftsgüter bei der Veräusserung zu erzielen ist.

Verkehrswert is fair value/market value.

The distinction is that the Verkehrswert is an actual value, the gemeine Wert is a "presumed" fair value (usually only for tax purposes).
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Ted Wozniak
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3"presumed/assumed" fair value / fair value
Ted Wozniak
3 +1fair value / market value
Kim Metzger
Summary of reference entries provided
gemeiner Wert - Verkehrswert
Johannes Gleim

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
fair value / market value


Explanation:
I'm not sure about this, but it looks like a good possibility.

http://ivd.net/der-bundesverband/nachrichtendetail/archive/2...

Fair value vs market value
The latest edition of International Valuation Standards (IVS 2007), clearly distinguishes between fair value, as defined in the IFRS, and market value, as defined in the IVS:
So As the term is generally used, Fair Value can be clearly distinguished from Market Value. It requires the assessment of the price that is fair between two specific parties taking into account the respective advantages or disadvantages that each will gain from the transaction. Although Market Value may meet these criteria, this is not necessarily always the case. Fair Value is frequently used when undertaking due diligence in corporate transactions, where particular synergies between the two parties may mean that the price that is fair between them is higher than the price that might be obtainable on the wider market. On other words Special Value may be generated. Market Value requires this element of Special Value to be disregarded, but it forms part of the assessment of Fair Value.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_value#Fair_value_vs_market...


Kim Metzger
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agree  philgoddard
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
"presumed/assumed" fair value / fair value


Explanation:
I've researched these terms for a presentation I gave on translation German tax texts. Here's an excerpt.

As defined in the German Bewertungsgesetz:

the gemeine Wert - the presumed selling price that could be attained in a normal business transaction

Der gemeine Wert als Bewertungsmassstab ist der Preis, der im gewöhnlichen Geschäftsverkehr nach der Beschaffenheit der Wirtschaftsgüter bei der Veräusserung zu erzielen ist.

Verkehrswert is fair value/market value.

The distinction is that the Verkehrswert is an actual value, the gemeine Wert is a "presumed" fair value (usually only for tax purposes).

Ted Wozniak
United States
Local time: 23:52
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Asker: I Like this suggestion - I'm still looking into it.


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agree  Johannes Gleim: see Reference
2 hrs

agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
5 days

agree  Dipl.-Kfm. Bernhard Aicher MBA
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Reference comments


2 hrs
Reference: gemeiner Wert - Verkehrswert

Reference information:
gemeiner Wert m
(StR) fair market value, § 9 BewG
(ie, the price which can be realized for an asset under normal market condition; applicable unless a different measure of value is specifically prescribed)

Verkehrswert m
(com) current/fair .. market value
- salable value

(Schäfer, Wirtschaftswörterbuch Deutsch - Englisch)

Johannes Gleim
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 32
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