crítica propositiva

English translation: [from the] purposive standpoint OR: [from the] standpoint of purposive theory

18:23 Jan 20, 2012
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics / Political theory
Spanish term or phrase: crítica propositiva
I get some hits for "purposive critique" and I suspect it's a specific term in leftist political thought (originating with Habermas?) denoting criticism of society that implies an agenda for change.

"Purposive critique" sounds clunky and ugly to me, but then so does a lot of the language of political theory.

Is it the correct term? Any other suggestions? What insights can you offer?

All contributions welcome.

Context:

Desde una crítica propositiva, la necesidad de transitar de la idea de “bienes comunes” hacia una convivencia global basada en el Bien Común de la Humanidad, es un imperativo civilizatorio que supone imaginar fundamentos nuevos de vida colectiva.

It's an academic article, of course.
David Ronder
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:56
English translation:[from the] purposive standpoint OR: [from the] standpoint of purposive theory
Explanation:
Since purposive theory is a very specific concept, I strongly feel that you should keep the word, but you can ditch 'critique'.

See explanation of purposive theory, which fits your context perfectly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purposive_theory
Purposive theory (or the teleological approach) is a theory of statutory interpretation that holds that common law courts should interpret legislation in light of the purpose behind the legislation. Purposive theory stands in contrast to textualism or statutory derogation, two other prominent common law interpretation theories.

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Hi David! I agree that 'theory"may be too restrictive. I 'personallly don't have a problem with 'purposive' - what I do have a problem with is 'purposeful'; it has an entirely different meaning.
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Muriel Vasconcellos
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Local time: 06:56
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Yes, "from the purposive standpoint" did the trick. Thanks, Muriel, thanks all.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3[from the] purposive standpoint OR: [from the] standpoint of purposive theory
Muriel Vasconcellos
4 +1propositional critique
liz askew
4purposeful critique
Richard Hill
4constructive critique
Edward Tully


  

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purposeful critique


Explanation:
A Purposeful Critique
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Identify why the policies and procedures are being critiqued in the first place. A critique is often requested because of a challenge faced by an organization such as an accusation of sexual harassment or discrimination in promoting practices of internal employees. Sometimes policies and procedures are reviewed simply to ensure that they are up-to-date with the current business climate and laws. For example, a company may decide that they need to add policies and procedures regarding the posting of company-related information on blogs or social networking websites. Knowing your purpose is essential to success.



Read more: How to Critique the Policies and Practices of an Organization | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5815341_critique-policies-practices-...

Richard Hill
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constructive critique


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propositional critique


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Similarly, and in relation to my own engagement with the scholarly literature, I have come to see the futility of launching a solely propositional critique, as Butler ...

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12 Mar 2010 – Portuguese term or phrase: Abordagem propositiva. English translation: Propositional Approach. Entered by: tfaulkner ...
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18 Feb 2005 – (KudoZ) Spanish to English translation of capacidad propositiva!: propositional (thought/knowledge) capacity [Education / Pedagogy (Social ...

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propositivo - Wiktionary
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Jump to: navigation, search. [edit] Italian. [edit] Adjective. propositivo m. (f. propositiva, m plural propositivi, f plural propositive). propositional. [edit] Related terms ...

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propositivo > assertive or proactive
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30 May 2003 – La palabra propositivo como tal, no aparece en el diccionario que yo tengo y nunca la escuché. se puede interpretar como una palabra ...

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(discusión abierta y) propositiva > open and proactive discussion
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what about "proactive"?

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Mary Varney Rorty
www.stanford.edu/~mvr2j/habermas.html
But the issues there, as in the United States, are currently under debate, and Habermas wishes to contribute to that debate, considering proactively issues that ...

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Civil society and political theory - Google Books Result
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Habermas, The Theory of Communicative Action, vol. 2, 395. 59. Ibid., 396. 60. Thus, he rediscovers Tilly's "reactive" and "proactive" types of collective action.

liz askew
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  neilmac: I like this instinctively and would use it rather than purposive, but am no authority on the subject.
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neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: I don't think your examples fit the context very well.
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[from the] purposive standpoint OR: [from the] standpoint of purposive theory


Explanation:
Since purposive theory is a very specific concept, I strongly feel that you should keep the word, but you can ditch 'critique'.

See explanation of purposive theory, which fits your context perfectly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purposive_theory
Purposive theory (or the teleological approach) is a theory of statutory interpretation that holds that common law courts should interpret legislation in light of the purpose behind the legislation. Purposive theory stands in contrast to textualism or statutory derogation, two other prominent common law interpretation theories.

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Hi David! I agree that 'theory"may be too restrictive. I 'personallly don't have a problem with 'purposive' - what I do have a problem with is 'purposeful'; it has an entirely different meaning.

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
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Yes, "from the purposive standpoint" did the trick. Thanks, Muriel, thanks all.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Muriel, yes I like it, "from the purposive standpoint" fits the context really well. But the term "purposive theory" does seem to relate pretty strictly to legal interpretation, and this essay is not really about the law at all. Might "teleological" fit more general political theory better than ""purposive"? What do you think?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: yes prefer "standpoint" to "critique" here
19 mins
  -> Thank you!

agree  James A. Walsh
10 hrs
  -> Thanks, James!

agree  neilmac: I actually went away and thought about why I don't like it and... I don't know! I do like purpose, purposeful, purposeless and even porpoise, but somehow purposive niggles me...
21 hrs
  -> Thanks, Neil. Sometimes when I find I don't "like" something, its simply a matter of getting used to it.
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