pescadores extrativistas

English translation: fisherman engaged in extractive fishing

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Portuguese term or phrase:pescadores extrativistas
English translation:fisherman engaged in extractive fishing
Entered by: liz askew

12:00 Jan 18, 2012
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Fisheries
Portuguese term or phrase: pescadores extrativistas
comunidades formadas por pescadores artesanais e extrativistas

artisanal fishermen and ...
Andre Damasceno
Brazil
Local time: 00:01
fisherman engaged in extractive fishing
Explanation:
doh

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:iG2T18t7nMsJ:merl...

bit of a mouthful

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Belize
www.science2action.org/features-mainmenu-47/belize
Fish catches in Belize have declined in recent decades, and most of the ... engage in unsustainable marine resource use practices in order to maximize their income. ... compared to the potentially negative impact of unregulated extractive fishing. ... focus groups with tourists, fishermen, tour operators, and other local people. ...

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Extractive reserve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extractive_reserve
An extractive reserve is an area of land, generally state-owned where access and use rights, including natural resource extraction, are allocated to local groups ...
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liz askew
United Kingdom
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Summary of answers provided
4who take (catch) fish from the river (sea)
Martin Riordan
3 +1fisherman engaged in extractive fishing
liz askew
4and men who fish for their livelyhood
Nick Taylor
4primary producers
NataliaAnne
3fishermen who use [both traditional] and (large-scale) modern(ized) methods
Muriel Vasconcellos
Summary of reference entries provided
liz askew

  

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who take (catch) fish from the river (sea)


Explanation:
Entendo que o adjetivo "extrativistas" aqui significa que os pescadores simplesmente removem os peixes da natureza. Eles não tem nenhuma atividade produtiva, como por exemplo uma piscicultura. Não lembro de nenhuma palavra em EN que engloba este sentido, portanto a frase acima para indicar isso de uma maneira natural.

Martin Riordan
Brazil
Local time: 00:01
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
fisherman engaged in extractive fishing


Explanation:
doh

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:iG2T18t7nMsJ:merl...

bit of a mouthful

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Note added at 26 mins (2012-01-18 12:27:34 GMT)
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Belize
www.science2action.org/features-mainmenu-47/belize
Fish catches in Belize have declined in recent decades, and most of the ... engage in unsustainable marine resource use practices in order to maximize their income. ... compared to the potentially negative impact of unregulated extractive fishing. ... focus groups with tourists, fishermen, tour operators, and other local people. ...

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Note added at 29 mins (2012-01-18 12:30:09 GMT)
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Extractive reserve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extractive_reserve
An extractive reserve is an area of land, generally state-owned where access and use rights, including natural resource extraction, are allocated to local groups ...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 04:01
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sheryle Oliver: traditional fishing communities (small-scale) and extractive fishing (large-scale, e.g. Japanese industrial fishing and processing vessels)
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and men who fish for their livelyhood


Explanation:
and men who fish for their livelyhood

Nick Taylor
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primary producers


Explanation:
I don’t think that there is a term specific to fishing, so it would come under the general term ‘primary producers’. This is what my parents did before retiring and they were officially referred to in government documents as ‘primary producers’ and more specifically as ‘fishers’. (Note that this term is more PC as my mother was hardly a ‘fisherman’, however, I do realise that she was one of only two such qualified women in her state at the time, and so ‘fisherman’ continues to be commonly used...Sorry about getting off-track!)

Getting back to the point, there is the question of how to translate the whole phrase. Personally, I would use ‘traditional and commercial fishers’ as I think that this captures the general meaning better.

http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/content.aspx?doc=/content/3...


NataliaAnne
Brazil
Local time: 00:01
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
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1 day 20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
fishermen who use [both traditional] and (large-scale) modern(ized) methods


Explanation:
In this context, I don't think "extrativsta" has the same connotation as 'extractive' in English, which usually implies exploitation.

Examples:

travel.viamichelin.com/.../Tourist_Site-The_Fishing_Museum-Rue_V...Cached
Some ten boats are reminiscent of the different traditional and modern fishing methods (whales, cod, tuna, sardine, herrings). One can also see the 1984 ...

www.pacificdigitallibrary.org/.../pdl?...Cached
While this may be a first attempt to bring together numerous information about **traditional and modernized-traditional fishing methods**, a continued effort should ...

dspace-dev.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/.../SWP-1124-09015645.pdf?...
by J Van Maanen - 1980 - Cited by 12 - Related articles
An Occupation in Transition: **Traditional and Modern Forms of Commercial Fishing**. John Van Maanen. Marc L. Miller. Jeffrey C. Johnson. WP 1124-80 ...



Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 20:01
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Reference comments


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Reference

Reference information:
The Effect of the Copra Subsidy on Fishing - :: :: CENTER FOR ...
cmbc.ucsd.edu › Research › Student research
The expectation is that if people are offered more money in an alternative income, they will leave the resource extractive activity (such as fishing), thus reducing ...

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:iG2T18t7nMsJ:merl...

see page 4

liz askew
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