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pilier

English translation: ace salesman

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French term or phrase:pilier
English translation:ace salesman
Entered by: Jean-Claude Gouin

10:15 Dec 9, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Human Resources / Trial period
French term or phrase: pilier
CONTEXT:

"Cette formation devra être assurée par un moniteur ou vendeur pilier".

The training course is given to the trainee. Does "pilier" mean "essential" here? TIA.
FlyHi
France
Local time: 21:40
ace salesman
Explanation:
un vendeur d'expérience ...
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Jean-Claude Gouin
Canada
Local time: 15:40
Grading comment
Thanks.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3reliable
B D Finch
4cornerstone
Michel F. Morin
4ace salesman
Jean-Claude Gouin
3proven
kashew
Summary of reference entries provided
fonctions dans le secteur de la vente :
Pascale van Kempen-Herlant
Figurative meaning of "pilier"
Nikki Scott-Despaigne

  

Answers


12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
cornerstone


Explanation:
A mon sens, "pillar" ou "backbone" sont moins appropriés ici !

Michel F. Morin
France
Local time: 21:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 76
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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
ace salesman


Explanation:
un vendeur d'expérience ...

Jean-Claude Gouin
Canada
Local time: 15:40
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mimi 254
4 mins
  -> Un gros merc, Mimi ...
disagree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: This register is way too familiar for a professional context in my view and relates to performance, rather than dependability. A "pilier" suggests reliability, being a mainstay, sound. http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/pilier/60915
2 hrs
  -> and I disagree with your 'disagree' ...
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
reliable


Explanation:
The person giving the training needs to be reliable and thoroughly know the job. That is not the same as being "ace", which means high-performing and is not a necessary qualification for training somebody else.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 21:40
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 83

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Quite. a 'pilier' is a mainstay, a reliable, dependable person. It suggests experience and is rather more synonymous with "fiable" than "performant".
1 hr
  -> Thanks Nikki
agree  kashew: I thought of stalwart too ;-)
4 hrs
  -> Thanks kashew
agree  Laura Nagle (X)
6 hrs
  -> Thanks Laura
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
proven


Explanation:
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Note added at 5 heures (2011-12-09 16:11:46 GMT)
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stalwart?

kashew
France
Local time: 21:40
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 19
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Reference comments


1 hr
Reference: fonctions dans le secteur de la vente :

Reference information:
1er vendeur; vendeur pilier, responsable rayon
Nov 2010 vendeur pilier chez QUIKSILVER

Pascale van Kempen-Herlant
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
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11 hrs peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Figurative meaning of "pilier"

Reference information:
Dixit Larousse :

Support isolé en maçonnerie, élevé pour recevoir une charge (arcade, voûte, plafond, charpente, etc.).
Personne, chose dont la présence, l'activité est essentielle à l'existence d'un organisme, d'une institution : C'est un pilier de la maison.
Familier. Habitué d'un lieu public, qui n'en bouge guère : Pilier de bar.
Familier et vieux. Jambe grosse, solide.
Alpinisme
Structure rocheuse subverticale faisant saillie sur le versant d'une montagne.
Anatomie
Nom donné à plusieurs éléments anatomiques, en raison de leur disposition (piliers du voile du palais, du canal inguinal, du diaphragme).
Mines
Partie de gisement abandonnée, temporairement ou définitivement, pour soutenir le toit d'une excavation souterraine.
Sports
Au rugby, chacun des deux avants de première ligne, qui encadrent le talonneur dans la mêlée.


    Reference: http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/pilier/60915
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 44

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  B D Finch: The rugby connection is very likely to be picked up by French men, especially in SW France.
10 hrs
agree  mchd
1 day 14 mins
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