Certificate

English translation: certificate / diploma

02:17 Oct 21, 2011
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Social Sciences - Human Resources / Certificate
English term or phrase: Certificate
Portuguese in Brazil (and maybe in Europe) has two very similar words: "certidão" and "certificado". A question on Kudoz today asked for two different English words for these, as the asker is translating HR software which refers to both employees' "certidões" and "certificados". It would appear the program designer was thinking of two different things. I was at a loss...

The dictionary definitions of the two words are almost identical, as you can verify by consulting any PT or PT>EN dictionary. In general use, the only difference I could think of is that, while both can be used for official documents, such as birth, marriage, death and others of the plethora of official documents that exist in Brazil (though "certidão" dominates in these areas), "certificado" is used when referring to a qualification certificate from a training course. Maybe the original author wanted to distinguish civil and educational certificates.

So I wonder if anyone can suggest two different words in English, or one more plus "certificate", to reflect this difference, or at least some difference?
Martin Riordan
Brazil
Local time: 17:25
Selected answer:certificate / diploma
Explanation:
I am not offering these as general-purpose equivalents of "certidão" and "certificado", since from what you say "certificado" is applied to things that would certainly be called certificates and not diplomas in English. However, IF the difference in this case is indeed between general documentation certifying whatever it may be, on the one hand, and qualification certificates, on the other, the latter can generally be called diplomas, I should have thought.
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 22:25
Grading comment
Thanks, Charles...
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eski
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certificate
Certification


Explanation:
Certification

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Note added at 6 mins (2011-10-21 02:23:47 GMT)
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Hi Martin. I speak very little Portuguese but here's my suggestion, for what it's worth:
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eski :))

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Note added at 24 mins (2011-10-21 02:41:52 GMT)
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Thanks for your note Martin; going to call it it a day, it's getting close to my evening news time here in Mexico: Boa sorte!
eski :))

eski
Mexico
Local time: 14:25
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Eski, thanks for your efforts! Good suggestion. I´ll wait for some more contributions when Europe wakes up...

Asker: Thanks, Eski!

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certificate
certificate / diploma


Explanation:
I am not offering these as general-purpose equivalents of "certidão" and "certificado", since from what you say "certificado" is applied to things that would certainly be called certificates and not diplomas in English. However, IF the difference in this case is indeed between general documentation certifying whatever it may be, on the one hand, and qualification certificates, on the other, the latter can generally be called diplomas, I should have thought.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 22:25
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
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Thanks, Charles...

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certificate
accreditation


Explanation:
I don't know if this might help, but this is another related term that might help; though of course it tends to refer more to the abstract context of 'being accredited'; for the noun you need, I'm not sure if you might be able to use 'credentials'?

Tony M
France
Local time: 22:25
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 50
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