klinisch nicht abweichen

21:26 Sep 11, 2011
German to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / colonic cleansing
German term or phrase: klinisch nicht abweichen
Der ganze Satz lautet:

„Die Elektrolytwerte blieben auch bei Patienten über x Jahren durchgehend innerhalb des Normalbereichs und wichen klinisch nicht signifikant ab. „

Kontext: Es werden mehrere Vergleichsstudien beschrieben.

Könnte man hier sagen „did not differ significantly in clinical terms", um "did not differ significantly clinically" zu vermeiden?
Mariana Rohlig Sa
Germany
Local time: 07:05


Summary of answers provided
4no divergence in clinical outcomes
Attila Szabo
3and did not reveal clinical divergence to any significant degree
David Hollywood
3are not at variance with the clinical picture
Eugenia Robinson (X)
3consistent with the clinical picture
Lirka


Discussion entries: 8





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
no divergence in clinical outcomes


Explanation:
I have browsed through many studies. The German expression regularly pops up phrased as given in the target term.

Example sentence(s):
  • Explaining divergence in clinical outcomes (title of a study)
  • However, this difference in divergence is not reflected in clinical outcome.

    Reference: http://www.scts.org/documents/PDF/explaining_divergence%287%...
    Reference: http://www.ijoonline.com/article.asp?issn=0019-5413;year=201...
Attila Szabo
Czech Republic
Local time: 07:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SlovenianSlovenian
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  olympio (X): Which part of the source sentence prompted you to think of "clinical outcomes"?
14 hrs
  -> The fact that electrolyte levels were regularly measured within X years and there was no significant divergence in the clinical outcomes (of those X measurements).
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
and did not reveal clinical divergence to any significant degree


Explanation:
maybe ...

David Hollywood
Local time: 02:05
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 316

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John Hein-Hartmann: Sounds more natural to me
7 hrs

neutral  olympio (X): I'd be grateful if you could educate me on what "clinical divergence" means.
8 hrs

neutral  Lirka: not idiomatic
10 hrs

disagree  kudozian (X): This is nothing but mumbo-jumbo
13 hrs
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
are not at variance with the clinical picture


Explanation:
My reading of the German phrase. Here is a related example sentence that I found by using my favorite search engine:


If the results so obtained are at variance with the clinical picture or with the results of other tests, the cause of the discrepancy can be investigated immediately just as the finding of an unexpected tachycardia or hypertension during the physical examination leads to further enquiry and observation.
http://www.iupac.org/publications/pac/57/4/0565/pdf

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Note added at 13 hrs (2011-09-12 10:41:34 GMT)
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nicht signifikant abweichen
are not significantly at variance with

Eugenia Robinson (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  olympio (X): good attempt, but I'm not sure if 'klinisch' implies 'clinical picture'
2 hrs
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
consistent with the clinical picture


Explanation:
The original text *is* indeed ambiguous. Nevertheless, I think the above is what is meant...

Lirka
Austria
Local time: 07:05
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 880

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  olympio (X): Isn't "consistent with" simply another way of saying "not at variance with" (see Eugenia's answer above) ?
13 mins
  -> Medical idiom is what counts here. I've never seen 'not at variance" written in medical reports...

neutral  Armorel Young: surely these readings are part of the clinical picture, so talking of being consistent or at variance with it is illogical
5 hrs
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