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Doubles poneys

English translation: poneys

14:30 Sep 7, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Livestock / Animal Husbandry / Tourist material
French term or phrase: Doubles poneys
Hello,
Any horse experts out there? This comes from tourist material for the Champagne region and here is talking about a riding school. I'm not sure if the category "double poney" exists in English, apparently they are horses such as Haflinger, Welsh cob and Fjord which I assume are somewhere between a pony and horse in height. Any help much appreciated.
L'école d'équitation s'adresse à un large public de 3 à 93 ans et permet de monter des shetlands, des doubles poneys et des chevaux.
Anne Greaves
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:47
English translation:poneys
Explanation:
For me they are just "poneys", as distinct from "Shetland poneys" or "Shetlands" (in context), as explained previously here:

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/livestock_animal...

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Note added at 53 mins (2011-09-07 15:24:36 GMT)
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Qui a t il comme race de double poney ?
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LE DOUBLE PONEY N'EXISTE PAS VRAIMENT c'est surtout un terme pour qualifier les poneys de grandes tailles.

tu as le haflinger, le fjord, le welsh cob, le connemara, le fell, l'highland, le konik, le gotland.... enfin voila pour les poneys de grandes tailles, ensuite tu as des chevaux de petites tailles style camarguais, merens...
http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2008022010524...


Of ponies, one site (probably worth a fuller read) says :

As a generalisation it can not be based on height or conformation, pony type or temperament, but is a subtle combination of the lot, with different breeds having their own particular characteristics.
[ ... ]
With the exception of Falabellas, miniatures under seven hands developed in the Buenos Aires province, Shetlands are the smallest ponies in the world
http://www.horse.co.nz/pony.html
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Bourth (X)
Local time: 03:47
Grading comment
Thanks for help! (Spelling ponies as Tony said)
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1poneys
Bourth (X)
4 +1(larger) ponies and cobs
B D Finch


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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
poneys


Explanation:
For me they are just "poneys", as distinct from "Shetland poneys" or "Shetlands" (in context), as explained previously here:

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/livestock_animal...

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Note added at 53 mins (2011-09-07 15:24:36 GMT)
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Qui a t il comme race de double poney ?
Meilleure réponse - Choisie par les votants
LE DOUBLE PONEY N'EXISTE PAS VRAIMENT c'est surtout un terme pour qualifier les poneys de grandes tailles.

tu as le haflinger, le fjord, le welsh cob, le connemara, le fell, l'highland, le konik, le gotland.... enfin voila pour les poneys de grandes tailles, ensuite tu as des chevaux de petites tailles style camarguais, merens...
http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2008022010524...


Of ponies, one site (probably worth a fuller read) says :

As a generalisation it can not be based on height or conformation, pony type or temperament, but is a subtle combination of the lot, with different breeds having their own particular characteristics.
[ ... ]
With the exception of Falabellas, miniatures under seven hands developed in the Buenos Aires province, Shetlands are the smallest ponies in the world
http://www.horse.co.nz/pony.html


Bourth (X)
Local time: 03:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 94
Grading comment
Thanks for help! (Spelling ponies as Tony said)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Vaddy Peters: may be they are harnessed in two, three, four?
9 mins
neutral  Gabrielle Leyden: They're large ponies (just below the horse cut-off), but in this case "ponies" will do.
14 mins
neutral  Tony M: Err, isn't that 'ponies'? As Gabrielle says, as distinct from the 'miniatures'
22 mins
  -> Yes, Tony, I've been in France too long.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(larger) ponies and cobs


Explanation:
In English anything under 14.2 hands is a pony and anything over is a horse. Welsh cobs and Haflingers both have a minimum breed height of 13.2 hands but can be well over 14.2 hands, so some are ponies and some are horses. Cobs, even large ones have the conformation of a broad-backed, large-boned pony.

So, I think that the only way to cover this in English is to mention both ponies and cobs, as a cob can be an adult ride, even if less than 14.2.





    Reference: http://wpcs.uk.com/breed_information/section_c_d/
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haflinger_%28horse%29
B D Finch
France
Local time: 03:47
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 22

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cetacea
1 hr
  -> Thanks Cetacea
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