Université des Métiers

English translation: corporate university

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French term or phrase:	Université des Métiers
English translation:	corporate university

16:47 Aug 15, 2011

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French term or phrase: Université des Métiers

As an on-site staff training department. University of Trades? Sounds very literal, any other options?
Thanks for your help.

Lara Dargham KudoZ activity Questions: 1 (none open) Answers: 0 France
Local time: 08:12

corporate university

Explanation:
I don't know this term first hand, but it googles well, and there's even a Wiki:

A corporate university is any educational entity that is a strategic tool designed to assist its parent organization in achieving its goals by conducting activities that foster individual and organizational learning and knowledge. Corporate universities (CU) are a growing trend in corporations. In 1993, corporate universities existed in only 400 companies. By 2001, this had number increased to 2,000, including Walt Disney, Boeing, and Motorola.

In most cases, corporate universities are not universities in the strict sense of the word. The traditional university is an educational institution which grants both undergraduate and postgraduate degrees in a variety of subjects, as well as conducting original scientific research. In contrast, a corporate university typically limits scope to providing job-specific, indeed company-specific, training for the managerial personnel of the parent corporation. Corporate universities are most commonly found in the United States, a nation which has no official legal definition of the term "university". Perhaps the best known corporate university is the Hamburger University operated by McDonald's Corporation in Chicago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_university

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Note added at 5 hrs (2011-08-15 22:11:16 GMT)
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Oops, "firsthand."

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cc in nyc
Local time: 02:12

Grading comment

Thanks for your all your help. I think this is definitely the term that fits best in my context.
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Summary of answers provided

corporate university

cc in nyc

4 -1

university of crafts and trades

reeny

in-house university/in-house training academy

Claire Nolan

2 +1

Career Development Department/Unit

mimi 254

3 -1

Business College for Professions

Timothy Rake

3 -1

polytechnic institute

B D Finch

Discussion entries: 6

Sheila Wilson

Spain

Thanks, Asker

21:22 Aug 15, 2011

Well, your ref has to be an example of native usage but it doesn't sound like a university to me. More like an "in-house training facility". But maybe that's just my age showing. After all, I remember when we had "bin men" and "barmaids" - sooo politically incorrect nowadays to call a spade a spade!

Lara Dargham

France

ASKER

21:03 Aug 15, 2011

As a matter of fact, the idea is very similar to this one:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/corporateResponsibility/emplo...
See the "Training and development" subheading.
In which case "university" would be an acceptable term.
I would not consider "Université des Métiers" as a name however, but more as a type of institution.

Lara Dargham

France

ASKER

20:54 Aug 15, 2011

Thank you for your answers, and sorry for the late reply. It is intended for an international public, using AE. From what I understand, the "Université des Métiers" is a training institute (or department?) that includes different training courses for employees (only) to acquire or enhance business-specific skills (mostly Customer Relationship Management professions).

Sheila Wilson

Spain

Is it the institution's name?

18:49 Aug 15, 2011

If so, you probably don't need/want to translate it, but to add an explanation in English. The questions cchat posed need to be answered, too, along with the intended readership (British, American, other?)

Timothy Rake

United States

@cchat

17:41 Aug 15, 2011

I like your idea, however, if this is translated for American audience, I would go with "College of Crafts and Trades" as per my note about difference between what we call a "College" and a "University".

cchat

17:37 Aug 15, 2011

"As an on-site staff training department."
Is it part of the company? Is it really a university?
The reference below is to something like a technical college or training centre.
La transformation de l'appellation C.F.A. (Centre de Formation d'Apprentis) en UMAG (Université de Métiers de l'Artisanat) est symbolique de la valorisation ..

Answers

12 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Business College for Professions

Explanation:
At least in the USA, we would probably refer to this kind of school as a "College" - specialized, in this instance, in the trades and/or professions, as opposed to a University, which implies an entirely different context (4-year degree in Sciences or Humanities, etc. + graduate programs)

The term "college" is also used in a general sense to refer to a post-secondary institution

See link about the difference between "college" and "university"

Reference: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_c...

Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 23:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

12 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

university of crafts and trades

Explanation:
http://www.ideassonline.org/public/pdf/br_44_102.pdf

reeny
Local time: 08:12
Native speaker of:

English

59 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

polytechnic institute

Explanation:
The UK polytechnics generally became universities about 20 years ago. However, adding "institute" makes it clear that this is about technical and trades education.

www.thefreedictionary.com/polytechnic institute
"Noun, 1. polytechnic institute - a technical school offering instruction in many industrial arts and applied sciences. engineering school, polytechnic ..."

B D Finch
France
Local time: 08:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 121

5 hrs confidence:

corporate university

cc in nyc
Local time: 02:12
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 46

Grading comment

Thanks for your all your help. I think this is definitely the term that fits best in my context.

7 hrs confidence:

in-house university/in-house training academy

Explanation:
Based on the asker's example (see the link given by asker in the discussion section):

''University'' if the employee actually gets university credits for the training:

SKANSKA FOLLOWS TREND WITH IN-HOUSE UNIVERSITY

By Jessica Saunders - East Bay Business Times

When Michael Nelson was considering a career move nearly three years ago, he looked for a company with a commitment to its employees' professional development.

Skanska USA Building Inc., which has an office in Oakland, offered 80 percent tuition reimbursement toward the M.B.A. he was halfway to earning, as well as ongoing in-house training through its corporate university. Knowing he could continue his education at Skanska tipped the scales in its favor, said Nelson, project manager at the company's addition to the Regional Medical Center of San Jose.

http://www.corpu.com/weekly/article/skanska-follows-trend-ho...

''Training academy'' if the employee gets training in business skills:

With a worldwide reputation for quality and excellence - and some 3, 500 staff - Harrods have developed an IN-HOUSE TRAINING ACADEMY for their top Sales Associates.

http://business.anglia.ac.uk/harrods.cfm

Claire Nolan
Local time: 02:12
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 68

16 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Career Development Department/Unit

Explanation:
agree with clain and Sheila that University doesn't seem to fit here.
Being an on-site staff training, I'd try this

mimi 254
Local time: 07:12
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 53

Notes to answerer

Asker: That sounds pretty good. The problem is that if University is not the right term in English, than it wouldn't be in French either. So my take is that it is obviously is a deliberate "marketing" choice, that should be conveyed in the English translation as well.

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