smaller view camera usually set to f:8

Spanish translation: cámara de fuelle

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English term or phrase:smaller view camera usually set to f:8
Spanish translation:cámara de fuelle
Entered by: teju

16:09 Jul 29, 2011
English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Photography/Imaging (& Graphic Arts) / Museum exhibit
English term or phrase: smaller view camera usually set to f:8
No sé mucho de fotografía y no he podido encontrar un buen glosario en internet. Esta es la oración:


He worked with a smaller view camera, usually set to f:8, using 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 and 4x5-inch film.

Gracias!
teju
Local time: 03:48
cámara de fuelle
Explanation:
I'll limit my answer to 'view camera' (f8 should be a separate question and has already been discussed elsewhere on the page).

It refers to a type of camera that was common pre-1960 which had a bellows arrangement between the lens and sensitive plate or film.

Compare the terminology in these webrefs:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cámara_fotográfica

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuelle_(cámara_fotográfica)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_camera

'smaller' refers to the size of the light-sentitive plate or film - the duimensions mentioned refer to a 'quarter-plate' camera, small enough to fit in a pocket. The English wiki webref shows a studio 'view camera', probably 'full plate' size (it would use 10 x 8 inch glass plates.

An important feature of large 'view cameras (and some small ones) is the ability to move the front panel that carries the lens up and down, and tilt either the font panel or the plate holder (or both) in order to correct the perspective errors that occur when phoitographing, for example, a tall building.

Although often used on a tripod (because film speeds were slow in those days), hence exposures were long, that is not a determining feature of a 'view camera'. Nor is it a reference to the viewfinder.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-29 19:56:22 GMT)
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Re Asker's notebelow:

The full translation would be: "cámara de fuelle más pequena normalmente con diafragma de f/8" (or something similar)

fslash8 is far more commonly used than fcolon8

Depending on the historical period, the author's mention of the f-number would have different implications, mostly concerned with the artistic style of the resulting photographs rather than with the technical characteristics of the camera or plates/film.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-29 20:00:52 GMT)
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Re Asker's 2nd note below:

Since the overall size of the camera depends on the size of the plates it uses, 'smaller' is ambiguous (and maybe deliberately so). A 'quarter-plate' camera will necessarily be smaller in all its dimensions than a full-plate camera (e.g. a typical full-plate camera measures about 12x12x15 inches when the bellows is half-open whereas a quarter-plate camera will fit in the pocket of an overcoat.) I would leave it ambigious in the translation: más pequeño' (assuming there's been previous discussion of something 'bigger').

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-29 20:03:40 GMT)
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I should have added that 'con placas de menor tamaño' might turn out to be an over-translation - we don't know, and shouldn't assume, that this smaller view camera used plates and not cut or roll film.
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 05:48
Grading comment
Muchas gracias por toda tu ayuda, me sirvió de mucho. Un saludo.
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Summary of answers provided
4cámara de fuelle
Jennifer Levey
4cámara de visor directo pequeña que generalmente se fija / esta fijada en f:8
Rafael Molina Pulgar
3cámara con trípode más pequeña ajustada en f:8
Abaz
3cámara de visor más pequeña normalmente puesto/ tendido/ fijado en f:8
Stephen Mason (X)


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49 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
cámara con trípode más pequeña ajustada en f:8


Explanation:
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Note added at 1 hr (2011-07-29 17:12:35 GMT)
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Hola teju:
En google "images" puedes ver imágenes. También la llaman cámara de fuelle.

Abaz
Spain
Local time: 11:48
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hola Abaz, gracias por contestar. Entonces "view camera" es una cámara con trípode?

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cámara de visor más pequeña normalmente puesto/ tendido/ fijado en f:8


Explanation:
The term View Camera was already on Proz, please see below for the answer.
The bit about smaller couldn't find a real answer for, but makes sense in the context.
Was a bit unclear about f:8, however was able to find a lot of responses about f/8.

¡Suerte!

Stephen

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-07-29 17:22:27 GMT)
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Disculpa:

cámara de visor más pequeña normalmente puesta/ tendida/ fijada en f:8


Explanation:
The term View Camera was already on Proz, please see below for the answer.
The bit about smaller couldn't find a real answer for, but makes sense in the context.
Was a bit unclear about f:8, however was able to find a lot of responses about f/8.

¡Suerte!

Stephen


Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_spanish/photography_ima...



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Stephen Mason (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:48
Native speaker of: English
Notes to answerer
Asker: Muchas gracias por tu ayuda.

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
view camera
cámara de fuelle


Explanation:
I'll limit my answer to 'view camera' (f8 should be a separate question and has already been discussed elsewhere on the page).

It refers to a type of camera that was common pre-1960 which had a bellows arrangement between the lens and sensitive plate or film.

Compare the terminology in these webrefs:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cámara_fotográfica

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuelle_(cámara_fotográfica)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_camera

'smaller' refers to the size of the light-sentitive plate or film - the duimensions mentioned refer to a 'quarter-plate' camera, small enough to fit in a pocket. The English wiki webref shows a studio 'view camera', probably 'full plate' size (it would use 10 x 8 inch glass plates.

An important feature of large 'view cameras (and some small ones) is the ability to move the front panel that carries the lens up and down, and tilt either the font panel or the plate holder (or both) in order to correct the perspective errors that occur when phoitographing, for example, a tall building.

Although often used on a tripod (because film speeds were slow in those days), hence exposures were long, that is not a determining feature of a 'view camera'. Nor is it a reference to the viewfinder.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-29 19:56:22 GMT)
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Re Asker's notebelow:

The full translation would be: "cámara de fuelle más pequena normalmente con diafragma de f/8" (or something similar)

fslash8 is far more commonly used than fcolon8

Depending on the historical period, the author's mention of the f-number would have different implications, mostly concerned with the artistic style of the resulting photographs rather than with the technical characteristics of the camera or plates/film.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-29 20:00:52 GMT)
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Re Asker's 2nd note below:

Since the overall size of the camera depends on the size of the plates it uses, 'smaller' is ambiguous (and maybe deliberately so). A 'quarter-plate' camera will necessarily be smaller in all its dimensions than a full-plate camera (e.g. a typical full-plate camera measures about 12x12x15 inches when the bellows is half-open whereas a quarter-plate camera will fit in the pocket of an overcoat.) I would leave it ambigious in the translation: más pequeño' (assuming there's been previous discussion of something 'bigger').

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-29 20:03:40 GMT)
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I should have added that 'con placas de menor tamaño' might turn out to be an over-translation - we don't know, and shouldn't assume, that this smaller view camera used plates and not cut or roll film.

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 05:48
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 35
Grading comment
Muchas gracias por toda tu ayuda, me sirvió de mucho. Un saludo.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Excelente explicación y referencias. Lo que mencionas sobre el trípode tiene lógica, yo también había encontrado fotos en internet de este tipo de cámaras sin trípode. Incluí en mi pregunta lo de f:8 porque no sabía cómo traducirlo, es parte de la misma oración y estaba dentro del límite de 10 términos. Puedo usar lo que me han sugerido los otros colegas. Gracias también por el comentario de más arriba.

Asker: No me queda claro como incorporar "smaller" aquí. ¿Está bien si digo "cámara de fuelle con placas de menor tamaño? Gracias.

Asker: There was indeed a reference to a larger camera that was lost in a fire. I will leave it then as "cámara de fuelle más pequeña con diafragma f/8". ¿Eres fotógrafo? Sabes mucho sobre el tema, que suerte tuve que miraras mi pregunta. Mil gracias de nuevo, me has sacado de un apuro. Creo que voy a poner otra pregunta sobre fotografía en los próximos minutos, si tienes tiempo de mirar, te lo agradecería. Un saludo.

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cámara de visor directo pequeña que generalmente se fija / esta fijada en f:8


Explanation:
CÁMARA DE VISOR DIRECTO « La Fotografía antes y ahora.
ktid.wordpress.com/category/camara-de-visor-directo/ - En caché
Archivos de la categoría 'CÁMARA DE VISOR DIRECTO'. CÁMARA DE VISOR DIRECTO. Posted by ktid en mayo 5, 2008. Son cámaras muy sencillas. ...
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8 Tipos de cámaras Existe una gran variedad de modelos y tamaños ...
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La cámara de visor directo, inicialmente utilizada para el periodismo gráfico debido a su tamaño compacto y su fácil manejo (comparado con las enormes ...

Rafael Molina Pulgar
Mexico
Local time: 03:48
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 20
Notes to answerer
Asker: Muchas gracias por tu ayuda Rafael, parece que así se llaman también este tipo de cámaras.

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