one is a house divided

Italian translation: come una casa divisa in due

15:18 Jul 16, 2011

English to Italian translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / psicoanalisi freudiana

English term or phrase: one is a house divided

Repression divides and weakens personality
......
That is, even if repression did not (presumably) interfere with the normal discharge of the sum of eccitation, the isolation and sequestering of mental contents would nevertheless possess pathogenic potential. This is not only because pursuing conflictual and contradictyory aims weakens the personality - one is a house divided - but also because the use of repression prevents the inner conflict from being confronted and resolved.

Non capisco proprio a che cosa si riferisca...

Danila Moro KudoZ activity Questions: 1336 (none open) (30 without valid answers) (149 closed without grading) Answers: 8568 Italy
Local time: 23:08

Italian translation:come una casa divisa in due

Explanation:
penso che si tratti di stanze (e compartimenti della personalità) non comunicanti tra loro.

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Note added at 18 min (2011-07-16 15:36:23 GMT)
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One (person) is (like) a house divided (in two or more flats, without doors).

Secondo me il senso della frase è questo, forse manca "like". Non penso si tratti di un refuso, ma di una frase estremamente concisa e colloquiale in un contesto più accademico.

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Note added at 21 min (2011-07-16 15:40:08 GMT)
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"One" nel senso di "si è come una casa divisa (in due)".

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Note added at 2 ore (2011-07-16 17:20:29 GMT)
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Anche "...(indebolisce la personalità), causando divisioni interne, ma anche perché...".

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Cristina Munari
Italy
Local time: 23:08

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Summary of answers provided

3 +3

come una casa divisa in due

Cristina Munari

3 +1

colui che è diviso da lotte intestine/ una persona che vive di conflitti interiori

Giusy Comi

3 +1

è come coabitare con un estraneo / se in noi coabitassero forze opposte

ARS54

3 +1

un po' come vivere da separati in casa con se stessi

AdamiAkaPataflo

una persona è paragonabile ad una casa divisa in stanze

matira

Summary of reference entries provided

Origine della frase - Lincoln, Guerra Civile

Barbara Carrara

Discussion entries: 2

Answers

29 mins confidence:

una persona è paragonabile ad una casa divisa in stanze

Explanation:
Forse troppo prolissa, ma credo si riferisce a questo.

matira
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47 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

colui che è diviso da lotte intestine/ una persona che vive di conflitti interiori

Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln's_House_Divided_Speech
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/A_house_divided_against_itself_can...

Giusy Comi
Italy
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4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

come una casa divisa in due

Cristina Munari
Italy
Local time: 23:08
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Italian
PRO pts in category: 40

Notes to answerer

Asker: concettualmente potrebbe essere.... però perché "one"? E la struttura dalla phrase che non torna. Ci sarà un refuso?

Asker: ah! ecco... "one" nel senso di "uno", una persona. Non ci avevo pensato. Ora è chiaro. Grazie!!!

8 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

è come coabitare con un estraneo / se in noi coabitassero forze opposte

Explanation:
...offro il mio (duplice) piccolo contributo, :-))

ARS54
Italy
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1 day 15 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

un po' come vivere da separati in casa con se stessi

Explanation:
Non so quanti lettori italiani coglierebbero il riferimento a Lincoln (io no di certo)
Leggendo la frase a me è venuta subito in mente l'immagine (decisamente più moderna) dei coniugi separati in casa...

AdamiAkaPataflo
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PRO pts in category: 90

Reference comments

30 mins peer agreement (net): +4

Reference: Origine della frase - Lincoln, Guerra Civile

Reference information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln's_House_Divided_Speech

"Origins of the phrase "House Divided"
The speech contains the quotation "A house divided against itself cannot stand," which is taken from Matthew 12:25: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." Lincoln was referring to the division of the country between slave and free states. The "house divided" phrase had been used by others before, and by Lincoln himself in another context in 1843. Most famously, eight years before Lincoln's speech, during the Senate debate on the Compromise of 1850, Sam Houston had proclaimed: "A nation divided against itself cannot stand." During the War of 1812 a similar line appeared in a letter from Abigail Adams to Mercy Otis Warren. Mrs. Adams wrote "... A house divided upon itself - and upon that foundation do our enemies build their hopes of subduing us." In Thomas Paine's 1776 Common Sense, his description of the composition of Monarchy, "this hath all the distinctions of a house divided against itself . . ."

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Note added at 35 mins (2011-07-16 15:53:25 GMT)
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"divided against itself
(of a group which should be coherent) split by factional interests: the regime is profoundly divided against itself"

A dire, che le lotte tra fazioni interne (tra due schieramenti, ad es.) portano solo disunione, separano.
Da qui, credo che la tua preparazione in materia ti possa assistere rispetto alla corretta formulazione in ambito psicologico.

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Note added at 36 mins (2011-07-16 15:55:14 GMT)
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Estratto dal discorso di Lincoln:
"[...] "A house divided against itself cannot stand."
I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free.
I do not expect the Union to be dissolved -- I do not expect the house to fall -- but I do expect it will cease to be divided.
It will become all one thing or all the other.
Either the opponents of slavery, will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new -- North as well as South."
(http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/hou...

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Note added at 14 hrs (2011-07-17 05:33:25 GMT)
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Sempre un piacere, Danila. Buona domenica, b.

Barbara Carrara
Italy
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Italian
PRO pts in category: 20

Note to reference poster

Asker: grazie cara, molto interessante!

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