"en dardos"

English translation: on wood buds / vegetative buds

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Spanish term or phrase:en dardos
English translation:on wood buds / vegetative buds
Entered by: Charles Davis

13:07 Jun 27, 2011
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Science - Botany / Evaluación de Eficacia en dardos
Spanish term or phrase: "en dardos"
The Spanish text concerns a product applied to almond trees to stop the leaves drying out. Later the text refers to "brotes en dardo". The term "lamburda" is also used and I have found this to mean "short shoot". I think "en dardos" is the stage before this, but if so how would it be translated? Can anyone help?

Maggie
Maggie Rosengarten
Local time: 04:44
on wood buds / vegetative buds
Explanation:
Following on from my reference entry, "dardos" and "lamburdas" are two different kinds of buds. Strictly speaking they are very short, young shoots with different kinds of buds on the end, but in English they are usually called buds rather than shoots, the word "shoot" being applied to a longer and more developed growth.

I refer to the illustrated page I cited before:
"1. Dardo: tiene una yema de madera en la punta.
2. Lamburda: tiene una yema mixta en la punta. [...]
Los frutos van a ir sobre lamburdas, bolsas y de vez en cuando en brindillas coronadas."
http://articulos.infojardin.com/Frutales/organos-arbol-fruta...

So a "dardo" is a shoot with a wood bud on the end, and a "lamburda" is a shoot with a mixed bud on the end. A mixed bud is a combination of a wood bud and one or more flower buds. The flower buds are those which will lead to fruit.

"Pruning And Management Of The Peach-Tree. Continued
"12. Double buds generally consist of a wood bud and a flower-bud. Fig. 2 shows this kind of buds: a, wood-buds; c, flower-buds. [...]
16. The wood-bud produces all the woody parts of the tree [...]
The young shoot is the first state into which the wood-bud enters in continuing its growth. At first it is merely a cluster of two or three young leaves"
http://chestofbooks.com/gardening-horticulture/Journal-14/Pr...

So "shoot" denotes a more developed stage of growth than a "dardo".

A wood bud is also known as a vegetative bud:
"Vegetative bud - a bud producing leaves and stems initially; not flowers."
http://fruit-crops.com/courseinfo/glossary.html

"Fruit buds--as the name implies--produce a blossom (followed by a fruit) whereas vegetative buds produce a woody shoot with leaves.
As you might have deduced, learning to tell the difference between the two is crucial, not only to the art of espalier, but to all fruit tree pruning. In general, a fruit bud is fat and rounded, while a vegetative bud is slender, pointed, and sleek."
http://www.frenchgardening.com/tech.html?pid=312780943859755

Compare this description of the difference between fruit buds and vegetative/wood buds with the illustrations of a "dardo" and a "lombarda" in the first source cited above, and I think it is clear that the "dardo" -- "slender, pointed and sleek" -- is indeed a vegetative bud or wood bud.
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Charles Davis
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Local time: 05:44
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Thank you to everyone who replied so promptly. I am awarding the points to Charles because he sent me so much information and really clarified the whole term for me. Maggie
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Summary of answers provided
4vernation/buds
Lourdes Sanchez
3 +1brotes en dardo: newly emerged shoots
Bubo Coroman (X)
3 +1spurs
Sheila Hardie
4on wood buds / vegetative buds
Charles Davis
3short shoot
Dolores Vázquez
Summary of reference entries provided
Some information
Charles Davis

Discussion entries: 2





  

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vernation/buds


Explanation:
a ver si esto te sirve

leaf bud - a bud from which leaves (but not flowers) develop
vernation - (botany) the arrangement of young leaves in a leaf bud before it opens
bud - a swelling on a plant stem consisting of overlapping immature leaves or petals

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/leaf bud

Vernation (from vernal meaning spring, since that is when leaves spring forth in temperate regions) is the formation of new leaves or fronds. In plant anatomy, it is the arrangement of leaves in a bud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernation

Lourdes Sanchez
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short shoot


Explanation:
Una sugerencia.


    Reference: http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery.do
Dolores Vázquez
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brotes en dardo: newly emerged shoots


Explanation:
according to the IATE http://iate.europa.eu/iatediff/SearchByQuery

"dardo" and "lamburda" are synonyms. In your text maybe you can distinguish between them by using a noun for "lamburda" (short shoot) and an adjective (newly emerged) for "dardo".

Bubo Coroman (X)
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agree  Gabriella Bertelmann: agree
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  -> many thanks Gabriella, kind regards! - Deborah
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spurs


Explanation:
Maybe they are referring to spurs?

HTH


Sheila

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Note added at 13 mins (2011-06-27 13:20:45 GMT)
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spur or fruiting spur:

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Sheila Hardie
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agree  Lourdes Sanchez: tienes razon ve la forma en esta planta http://forum.sensiseeds.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2974
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on wood buds / vegetative buds


Explanation:
Following on from my reference entry, "dardos" and "lamburdas" are two different kinds of buds. Strictly speaking they are very short, young shoots with different kinds of buds on the end, but in English they are usually called buds rather than shoots, the word "shoot" being applied to a longer and more developed growth.

I refer to the illustrated page I cited before:
"1. Dardo: tiene una yema de madera en la punta.
2. Lamburda: tiene una yema mixta en la punta. [...]
Los frutos van a ir sobre lamburdas, bolsas y de vez en cuando en brindillas coronadas."
http://articulos.infojardin.com/Frutales/organos-arbol-fruta...

So a "dardo" is a shoot with a wood bud on the end, and a "lamburda" is a shoot with a mixed bud on the end. A mixed bud is a combination of a wood bud and one or more flower buds. The flower buds are those which will lead to fruit.

"Pruning And Management Of The Peach-Tree. Continued
"12. Double buds generally consist of a wood bud and a flower-bud. Fig. 2 shows this kind of buds: a, wood-buds; c, flower-buds. [...]
16. The wood-bud produces all the woody parts of the tree [...]
The young shoot is the first state into which the wood-bud enters in continuing its growth. At first it is merely a cluster of two or three young leaves"
http://chestofbooks.com/gardening-horticulture/Journal-14/Pr...

So "shoot" denotes a more developed stage of growth than a "dardo".

A wood bud is also known as a vegetative bud:
"Vegetative bud - a bud producing leaves and stems initially; not flowers."
http://fruit-crops.com/courseinfo/glossary.html

"Fruit buds--as the name implies--produce a blossom (followed by a fruit) whereas vegetative buds produce a woody shoot with leaves.
As you might have deduced, learning to tell the difference between the two is crucial, not only to the art of espalier, but to all fruit tree pruning. In general, a fruit bud is fat and rounded, while a vegetative bud is slender, pointed, and sleek."
http://www.frenchgardening.com/tech.html?pid=312780943859755

Compare this description of the difference between fruit buds and vegetative/wood buds with the illustrations of a "dardo" and a "lombarda" in the first source cited above, and I think it is clear that the "dardo" -- "slender, pointed and sleek" -- is indeed a vegetative bud or wood bud.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 05:44
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 63
Grading comment
Thank you to everyone who replied so promptly. I am awarding the points to Charles because he sent me so much information and really clarified the whole term for me. Maggie
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Reference comments


32 mins
Reference: Some information

Reference information:
Here's a useful illustrated guide in Spanish. This seems to be a feature of pome fruit trees (apple, pear, quince):

"1. Dardo: tiene una yema de madera en la punta.
2. Lamburda: tiene una yema mixta en la punta."
See illustrations here.
http://articulos.infojardin.com/Frutales/organos-arbol-fruta...

A "dardo" is one kind of bourse bud; I think it may be a wood bud as opposed to a fruit bud. See here:
"Bourse: The swollen part of the stem found at the base of attachment of apples and pear fruits
Bourse bud: either a fruit bud or a wood bud found at the bourse which usually is only 3 to 4 mm in length."
http://realenglishfruit.com/glossary/

Charles Davis
Spain
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Native speaker of: English
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Asker: Thank you so much for all your prompt help. Such a thorough and helpful reply. Maggie

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