samhällssäkerhet

English translation: Societal security (Homeland Security, in some national contexts)

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Swedish term or phrase:	samhällssäkerhet
English translation:	Societal security (Homeland Security, in some national contexts)
Entered by:	Charlesp

14:19 Apr 10, 2011

Swedish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics

Swedish term or phrase: samhällssäkerhet

I field within urbanization research.

Usage: eg "efforts to öka samhällets säkerhet."

I am looking for the standard term used in academic papers related to this.

Charlesp KudoZ activity Questions: 1488 (3 open) (1 without valid answers) (93 closed without grading) Answers: 1524 Sweden
Local time: 22:16

Societal security

Explanation:
http://www.ltdalarna.se/handling/LSAU/20110404/lsauh20110404...

check out page 22 of 25

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probably.
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_technical_committee?commid=295786

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I would have to disagree with Sven here...homeland security is mostly a matter of law enforcement and, as far as I know, is a US concept that came into existence immediately after the attacks on New York and Washington on 11 September. It was mainly a response to a lack of coordination between a number of law enforcement and intelligence agencies (though it also came to includes disaster response (FEMA)).
Societal security as it is generally used in sociology is a very different concept. The ISO technical standard defines it thus: "aimed at increasing crisis management and business continuity capabilities, i.e. through improved technical, human, organizational, and functional interoperability as well as shared situational awareness, amongst all interested parties".
If the context is 'urbanisation', the definition above would seem to be more relevant than measures to prevent an attack from Osama bin Laden, who, as far as I know, as nothing against urbanisation per se :-)

Selected response from:

Diarmuid Kennan
Ireland
Local time: 21:16

Grading comment

This -- appears to be the accepted standarized EU term.

In other contexts, the other suggestions may be more appropriate however.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

community safety (public safety)

Åsa Schoening

4 +1

Societal security

Diarmuid Kennan

4 +1

safety in society

George Hopkins

4 -1

homeland security

Sven Petersson

public welfare

SafeTex

Discussion entries: 7

Charlesp

Sweden

ASKER

Good question Sven.

03:37 Apr 11, 2011

I will raise the issue.

Åsa Schoening

United States

Den allmänna säkerheten = public safety

03:13 Apr 11, 2011

I still just view "samhällssäkerhet" as basically another way of saying "den allmänna säkerheten," which in Esseltes Stora svensk-engelska ordbok is translated as public safety.

Diarmuid Kennan

Ireland

Overlap

16:39 Apr 10, 2011

There is quite a lot of overlap here ... e.g. urbanisation may mean that society is more vulnerable to both terrorist attacks and natural catastrophe's. Also, both types of incident can require similar responses from society.
However, the difference as I see it, may be that sociology would also consider more long-term phenomena such as an ageing population and influenza epidemics as being threats to societal security, or (in an urbanization context) pollution, crime, social capital, traffic congestion, water resources, food supply etc.

Sven Petersson

Sweden

We have two possibilities:

16:25 Apr 10, 2011

The author has used the term for what it really means or for what the Swedish spin doctors want a reader/listener to perceive that it means.

Can you contact the author and find out what he/she meant?

Åsa Schoening

United States

Link between urbanization and homeland security?

16:13 Apr 10, 2011

I do not get how urbanization and homeland security are supposedly linked. To me, homeland security is linked to the notions of borders, immigration, (the threat of) terrorism, discussions within the EU, discussions between the US and Mexico, etc. In other words, it is more of an international issue, not a national one of urbanization within a specific country. Did I misunderstand the context of the question?

Charlesp

Sweden

ASKER

How about "security of the community"

14:36 Apr 10, 2011

Isn't that a more descriptive phrase? - but my question then, is this accepted among those working in this field of research?

Charlesp

Sweden

ASKER

For reference:

14:23 Apr 10, 2011

I have seen the terms "societal security" used sometimes, as is "public security."

Answers

18 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

community safety (public safety)

Explanation:
I would use "community safety," which is linked to "public safety." Depending on the context and the rest of the text, I might just use the more general "public safety."
Example from link below:
Utbildningsplan för Magisterprogram i Riskhantering /Samhällssäkerhet, 40 poäng
Study program for Degree of Master of Community Safety Management, 60 ECTS

Reference: http://www.nas.kau.se/files/Kurs-Riskhantering_o_sam.pdf

Åsa Schoening
United States
Local time: 16:16
Native speaker of: Swedish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Sven Petersson: That's exactly what the Swedish spin masters want the Swedish population to believe it means.

16 mins

-> I disagree. There is the concept in English of "community safety indicators" and the UN talks of "community safety" w. regards to urbanization. I don't view "safety" and "security" as interchangeable. National security is one thing, public safety another.

agree

Thomas Johansson: public safety (But I suppose it is still just a euphemism for more "fascism".)

4 hrs

-> Thank you, Thomas!

agree

Christopher Schröder: public safety

19 hrs

-> Thank you, Chris! Yes, the more I think about it, I prefer public safety.

agree

Cynthia Coan: I too like "public safety."

3 days 3 hrs

-> Thank you, Cynthia!

11 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

homeland security

Explanation:
:o)

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Please note that ”Myndigheten för samhällsskydd och beredskap” call themselves ”Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency” in English, probable because anything indicating or inferring nationalism (like homeland) currently is politically incorrect in Sweden.

Few Swedes would know what the term ”samhällsskydd” really mean; the term was coined to avoid political incorrectness.

Sven Petersson
Sweden
Local time: 22:16
Native speaker of:

Swedish,

English
PRO pts in category: 93

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks! Interesting idea - and works in the right context (as long as it is applied with appropriate sensitivity).

Asker: Yes, certainly described as "homeland security" in some national contexts. (see www.societalsecurity.eu)

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Societal security

Diarmuid Kennan
Ireland
Local time: 21:16
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 21

Grading comment

This -- appears to be the accepted standarized EU term.

In other contexts, the other suggestions may be more appropriate however.

Notes to answerer

Asker: That was quick! Thanks for your suggestion. I've seen that often used, but it seems somewhat a 'forced' term; is samhällssäkerhet simply a translation of the English term "Societal security"?

Asker: Thanks for the references. It is clear that "Societal security" is the standard term in use.

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

safety in society

Explanation:
How about a straight translation in the Asker's context?

George Hopkins
Local time: 22:16
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

23 days confidence:

public welfare

Explanation:
Hello

I'm taking Overlap 18:39 10 Apr comment and giving you a term with a wider connotation if you feel you need it

SafeTex
France
Local time: 22:16
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

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