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s'exprimer dans un ensemble fin et velouté

English translation: revealing the wine\'s fine pedigree through its underlying velvety delicacy

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French term or phrase:s\'exprimer dans un ensemble fin et velouté
English translation: revealing the wine\'s fine pedigree through its underlying velvety delicacy
Entered by: Carol Gullidge

10:06 Feb 17, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Wine / Oenology / Viticulture / tasting notes
French term or phrase: s'exprimer dans un ensemble fin et velouté
En bouche, belle attaque sur le fruit, élégance et équilibre, une chair soyeuse, raffinée, pas trop d'extraction permettant à une belle race de ******s'exprimer dans un ensemble fin et velouté******

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The stumbling block here seems to be 'ensemble' - making it hard to make this flow in a coherent and succinct way in English. Somehow, the obvious "a fine and velvety whole" sounds a little awkward to my ears, and I wonder if there is a better way to express this without turning it into too much of an essay.

Any suggestions wold be most welcome - many thanks!
Carol Gullidge
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:32
blending to form a delicate, velvety taste/flavour
Explanation:
my stab at it!

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Note added at 15 mins (2011-02-17 10:22:28 GMT)
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taste flavour or even texture
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ormiston
Local time: 11:32
Grading comment
Many thanks everybody! In the end, the client went for "allowing its fine pedigree to shine through the wine’s underlying velvety delicacy". Everyone's suggestions contributed in some way to this solution, which doubtless could also be improved upon considerably given less of a time constraint at the time of posting!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4deliver a stylish, velvet-smooth overall impression
Barbara Carrara
3 +3blending to form a delicate, velvety taste/flavour
ormiston
4coming together in a fine velvety ensemble
kashew


Discussion entries: 1





  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
blending to form a delicate, velvety taste/flavour


Explanation:
my stab at it!

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Note added at 15 mins (2011-02-17 10:22:28 GMT)
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taste flavour or even texture

ormiston
Local time: 11:32
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Many thanks everybody! In the end, the client went for "allowing its fine pedigree to shine through the wine’s underlying velvety delicacy". Everyone's suggestions contributed in some way to this solution, which doubtless could also be improved upon considerably given less of a time constraint at the time of posting!
Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks so much ormiston! I like delicate and velvety! Sorry to take so long to get back to you, but I got waylaid by a flurry of short but urgent translations, and have only just made my escape!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  carolynf: would "mouthfeel" maybe be more in keeping with the context here?
9 mins
  -> nice & sensual!
agree  Denise DeVries
2 hrs
agree  cc in nyc: yes to "delicate" and "velvety"
3 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
deliver a stylish, velvet-smooth overall impression


Explanation:
Depending on how you translate the first part of the sentence, this would be my suggestion (and one of many, no doubt).

Here's some supporting evidence,
'The first taste was magical. Very seldom to you get a wine that delivers everything you are looking for in the beverage you are so passionate about. The Lillian Syrah delivers on so many different levels. It’s dark and brooding and packs so much flavor that you grasp for the right words.'
(http://ballymote.wordpress.com/category/info-on-wine/tasting...

'Elegant and stylish and effortless in delivery with a pleasurable flavor impression on notes of roasted nuts, chalk, and lime fruit. Complex and multi dimensional with a long aftertaste.'
(http://lapassionduvin.com/phorum/read.php?9,115276)

'The taste should supplement the clues provided by your nose. Ask yourself whether the wine in your mouth (the palate) delivers what the nose advertised.'
(http://mywineshop.com.sg/wineinfo.asp)
'The palate is ripe-tasting, with cherry, sweet berry and red fruit flavours, a good dash of spice, savoury facets and cedary oak. The acid balance is excellent and the overall impression is one of softness and suppleness, rich yet fresh.'
(http://www.winetradeonline.co.nz/customer/product.php?produc...

'Round and rich flavors of red berries, ripe cherry and a hint of oak. Luscious fruit and smooth texture. The overall impression is mellow and smooth with great balance.'
(http://www.riverroomgeorgetown.com/index.php?option=com_cont...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2011-02-17 15:21:02 GMT)
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Thanks for your note, Carol.

Barbara Carrara
Italy
Local time: 11:32
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: many thanks Barbara! I'm actually applying "s'exprimer" to "belle race"/fine pedigree, but otherwise would like 'delivers' Also like the rest!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Colin Rowe: Sounds great! // Santé!
1 hr
  -> Well, cheers to that! Thanks, Barbara
agree  Layla de Chabot: deliver seems appropriate for "s'exprimer"
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Layla!
agree  cc in nyc: yes to "stylish" and "velvet-smooth"
2 hrs
  -> Thanks!
agree  B D Finch
3 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
coming together in a fine velvety ensemble


Explanation:
Lovely fine minerally texture enhancing good fruit and earthy undertones. .... All come together in a great ensemble. Growing - will improve further! ... Full bodied velvety texture. Loads of mouth filling ripe black fruit integrated ...
www.winefromafrica.com/genesisasp.asp?...

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Note added at 1 heure (2011-02-17 11:48:31 GMT)
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fin/fine and velouté/velvety are confirmed in Broadbent's "Wine tasting" appendix of terms.

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Note added at 5 heures (2011-02-17 15:17:46 GMT)
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Maybe work in "racy" just prior to your question bit?

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Note added at 5 heures (2011-02-17 15:37:33 GMT)
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Yes, I see "pedigree" used - and also "breed"
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:M91hM4v...


kashew
France
Local time: 11:32
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24
Notes to answerer
Asker: many thanks kashew! Actually I often (but not always!) use the (rather boringly obvious??) "fine" for "fin", as in the Lexivin, which gives "delicate/refined" (dégust)

Asker: I don't think it's racy (racé) but pedigree, strange though this may sound!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: IMO "fine" is too much like "nice" here for "fin" // Yes, I think that "elegant" is better. :-)
2 hrs
  -> Elegant if you prefer?
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