خراجگیران و گناهکاران جملگی

English translation: all land tax collectors and sinners

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Persian (Farsi) term or phrase:خراجگیران و گناهکاران جملگی
English translation:all land tax collectors and sinners
Entered by: SeiTT

06:48 Feb 1, 2011
Persian (Farsi) to English translations [Non-PRO]
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Persian (Farsi) term or phrase: خراجگیران و گناهکاران جملگی
Greetings,

My main problem: does خراجگیران و گناهکاران جملگی mean “all of the tax-collectors and sinners…” (in which case جملگی will presumably be preceded by kasre i.e. خراجگیران و گناهکارانِ جملگی) or does it mean “tax-collectors and sinners all…”, in which case there probably won't be a kasre before it (خراجگیران و گناهکارانْ جملگی).

This is, of course, mainly a grammatical question.

Hopefully I understand rightly that جملگی is synonymous with همگی.

۴۱و امّا خراجگیران و گناهکاران جملگی نزد عیسی گرد‌می‌آمدند تا سخنانش را بشنوند.۲امّا فَریسیان و علمای دین همهمه‌کنان می‌گفتند: «این مردْ گناهکاران را می‌پذیرد و با آنان همسفره می‌شود.»

All the best, and many thanks,

Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:24
all land tax collectors and sinners
Explanation:
Please note that خراج is a specific tax on land while tax is the general term, i.e. مالیات.
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Ryan Emami
Canada
Local time: 12:24
Grading comment
Many thanks, very useful point made too.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2all tax-collectors and sinners/tax-collectors and sinners all together
Ebrahim Golavar
5 +1all tax-collectors and sinners
Reza Ebrahimi
5 +1all land tax collectors and sinners
Ryan Emami
5the publicans and sinners as a group...
Edward Plaisance Jr


Discussion entries: 7





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
all tax-collectors and sinners


Explanation:
Jomlegi means ALL

Reza Ebrahimi
United States
Local time: 09:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 28

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Komeil Zamani Babgohari
1 hr
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
all tax-collectors and sinners/tax-collectors and sinners all together


Explanation:
جملگی=all, all together

Ebrahim Golavar
Native speaker of: Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Komeil Zamani Babgohari
1 hr
  -> thanks a lot

agree  Mohammad Emami: tax-collectors and sinners all together
1 hr
  -> thanks a lot
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
all land tax collectors and sinners


Explanation:
Please note that خراج is a specific tax on land while tax is the general term, i.e. مالیات.

Ryan Emami
Canada
Local time: 12:24
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
Many thanks, very useful point made too.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Komeil Zamani Babgohari
14 mins
  -> Thank you!
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
the publicans and sinners as a group...


Explanation:
in case "publican" might be considered old-fashioned, we could use "tribute-collector"

Edward Plaisance Jr
Local time: 12:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 44
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