desplazamiento(s)

English translation: authorization(s)

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Spanish term or phrase:	desplazamiento(s)
English translation:	authorization(s)
Entered by:	Paul Stevens

11:41 Nov 28, 2010

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Human Resources

Spanish term or phrase: desplazamiento(s)

I'm struggling a little to find the "mot juste" to use in English to convey this Spanish word which occurs a number of times in a Collective Agreement. Travel (time) seems to fit in well in most instances where the word is used in the text, but not always. The word appears on the following occasions:

"La Empresa facilitará a los Representantes de los Trabajadores los desplazamientos necesarios para la realización de sus funciones";

"A/ DENTRO DE LA JORNADA LABORAL

Para los desplazamientos durante la jornada de trabajo se utilizará el documento habitual denominado “desplazamientos de Representantes de los Trabajadores”, que se cumplimentará según lo dispuesto en la correspondiente Norma Interna en vigor";

"B/ FUERA DE LA JORNADA LABORAL

Con la antelación suficiente se realizará la petición a la jerarquía directa quien cumplimentará el citado documento de desplazamientos de Representantes de los Trabajadores” y lo pondrá a disposición del interesado en la Portería.

Si por circunstancias excepcionales de difícil previsión tuviese necesidad de entrar en el Centro fuera de su jornada de trabajo, y, consecuentemente, no pudiese haberlo previsto con anterioridad, podrá solicitar en la Portería el desplazamiento correspondiente, que será cumplimentado por el personal de Vigilancia, teniendo que entregar copia del mismo a la salida, una vez finalizada su gestión".

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Paul Stevens KudoZ activity Questions: 571 (none open) (18 closed without grading) Answers: 1342
Local time: 12:22

authorised /authorized absence(s)

Explanation:
In the special cases that "desplazamiento" in the classic sense of travel is not the issue and it is clear that it does not refer to travel to a conference, for an extended period, or involves a significant distance. Examples: Certain union responsibilities are authorized absence by the Office of ... Holiday – Timekeepers enter all holiday absences. Holidays are paid as long as an ...
www.spfsupervisors.state.pa.us/...; responsibilities which the Company and the Union are determined to fulfill. As a sign of good faith between BellSouth .... 26 Absences for Union Duties . ...
cwa3111.org/Documents/BST/2009_BST_Contract.pdf; /ho_3___basic_absence_info_for_supv_9_9_08.doc - Similares

Selected response from:

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 13:22

Grading comment

Many thanks, Jenni. I have awarded the points to you as you were the first to come up with the idea of the travel/absence, etc. being authorised. I feel that "authorization" is probably the best fit overall.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

travel (form)

Noni Gilbert Riley

authorised /authorized absence(s)

Jenni Lukac (X)

authorization / entry authorization / authorized or pertaining document

Victoria Frazier

off-site authorization; off-site assignments /time spent off-site

Muriel Vasconcellos

Movements log

JOHN PENNEY (X)

Discussion entries: 5

Paul Stevens

ASKER

07:43 Nov 29, 2010

Noted with thanks, Jenni.

Jenni Lukac (X)

15:43 Nov 28, 2010

Paul, this would obviously be 'entry to the premises' in the case that the meetings were to be held on the premises, as is noted in the same paragraph. It's a bit maddening (especially in terms of syntaxis) when a concept is taken to various extremes in Spanish but it is fairly common. 'Presence' for worker's committee meetings would be the other side of the 'absence' coin. I think the issues of absence from work and presence on company premises crosses here, but if you have a doubt, I'd suggest confirming this with the client.

Paul Stevens

ASKER

15:35 Nov 28, 2010

Jenni,

Many thanks for your thoughts. FYI, the quoted text is the vast majority of the section entitled "Utilización del Crédito de horas por los miembros del Comité de Empresa y Delegados Sindicales" and the word is not mentioned elsewhere in the whole text. Whilst I agree that your suggested translation could apply in some of the instances where the source word is used, it does not seem appropriate to subsection B, especially the last paragraph.

Jenni Lukac (X)

12:39 Nov 28, 2010

Without seeing more of the document it is difficult to be 100% sure but I think that this has to do with leave permission in a place where there people have to punch in and out and there is a certain level of security, the most important issue being the right of the workers to leave during their official working hours but the accountability for time away from the premises and their duties. In that sense it is a "desplazimiento", whether it is to go to a worker's committee meeting, a workshop, the dentist, or whatever. In one of my jobs as an executive secretary in Spain everyone except the highest executives had to punch in and out and justify all absences during working hours. It could get pretty contentious...

Noni Gilbert Riley

Spain

Authorized

12:30 Nov 28, 2010

Jenni's explanation makes a great deal of sense: I realise that I have been presuming we are talking about travelling expenses claims. How do you read it?

Answers

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

travel (form)

Explanation:
Elliptical use in many of your instances. They are actually talking about the form to be filled in, so as to be able to claim for travel expenses.

In you first instance, perhaps "Travel expense permit"

Noni Gilbert Riley
Spain
Local time: 13:22
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 60

31 mins confidence:

authorised /authorized absence(s)

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 13:22
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 96

Grading comment

5 hrs confidence:

authorization / entry authorization / authorized or pertaining document

Explanation:
"Entry authorization" is the first thing that came to mind after reading the last parragraph.

However, for :"La Empresa facilitará a los Representantes de los Trabajadores los desplazamientos necesarios para la realización de sus funciones", I would use 'authorization / pertaining document'. I do believe this relates to enter /work in the premises with some kind of authorization pass/permit.

NightKey® provides identity verification and entry authorization services to ... to record and verify patrons' identities when they enter their premises, ...
www.nightkey.ca/privacy-bc.php

Authorization is granted exclusively to banking firms, holding and trust ..... in a pertaining document. 3. Proxy granted to more than one subject is to be ...
www.studiovicari.sm/file/.../1255597385eng_LeggeTrustenglis...

entry and as necessary to re-enter the above-described premises and to ... If I choose to revoke this entry authorization, I agree that I will do so in ...
www.michigan.gov/documents/PEI_AttachmentD_81479_7.pdf

a signed entry authorization slip in the office so we can allow ... need to be removed from the premises. If you know that you ...
www.maunaluan.com/files/PDFs/Newsletter__-__2-10.pdf

Victoria Frazier
United States
Local time: 06:22
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 36

13 hrs confidence:

off-site authorization; off-site assignments /time spent off-site

Explanation:
First, I don't think it means the same thing in all the contexts. They are variations on a concept that the workers are familiar with. I suggest the following translations:
First example: 'off-site authorization'
Second example: either 'off-site assignments' or 'time spent off-site', then later, '(off-site) authorization' ('off-site' could be omitted the second time)
The rest would be 'off-site authorization'.

The language may not be exactly what's used, but I think it's the idea.

When I was employed as a professional in a desk job, we always had to get permission to take part in a professional activity outside the building during working hours. It could be it a meeting, a training session, a presentation, a field trip, etc. This was partly for insurance purposes, as well as to keep track of professionals traipsing all over the place, let our supervisors know where we were in case our services were needed, and of course, make sure we weren't goofing off.

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 04:23
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 52

1 day 3 hrs confidence:

Movements log

Explanation:
Maybe "movements log" or "record of movements" would fit the text.

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2010-11-29 15:41:59 GMT)
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Or "record of approved movements" perhaps? This would probably cover the off-site/on-site location of the staff.

JOHN PENNEY (X)
Local time: 08:23
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English

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