notions d’équilibre, d’assise

English translation: balance and structure

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French term or phrase:notions d’équilibre, d’assise
English translation:balance and structure
Entered by: Carol Gullidge

20:44 Nov 2, 2010
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Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / fashion design and illustration
French term or phrase: notions d’équilibre, d’assise
Tous deux avaient caressé le rêve initial d’être architectes et ont fait perdurer dans leurs créations respectives des *****notions d’équilibre, d’assise*****

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There is already a Glossary entry for "assise", but none of the suggestions posted there really fits here.
The text is about Christian Dior and his colleague, the illustrator René Gruau, shortly to become the subjects of an exhibition.
Clearly, the "notions d’équilibre, d’assise" both relate to their early architectural aspirations.
Any suggestions for "assise" in particular would be most welcome - many thanks!
Carol Gullidge
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balance and structure
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Richardson Lisa
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many thanks everybody for all your help! The client seems very happy with this suggestion. I realise that it is a "generalizing translation" (or hyperonym), but sometimes one has to fall back on these.
I was originally looking for something more akin semantically to "foundations", but could find nothing that really fitted in the context of haute couture design.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1balance and stability
David Vaughn
4balance and structure
Richardson Lisa
3notions of balance and solid combinations
SMcG (X)
3notions/ideas of balance/equilibrium and solid foundations
Yvonne Gallagher
Summary of reference entries provided
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assise
SMcG (X)

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balance and stability


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David Vaughn
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agree  philgoddard
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notions of balance and solid combinations


Explanation:
More the idea I think, also in regards to the working relationship of the two men.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-11-02 21:53:22 GMT)
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or: 'notions of balance, of solid combinations'

SMcG (X)
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notions/ideas of balance/equilibrium and solid foundations


Explanation:
architectural term ASSISE can't find English equivalent, maybe stratifications or just masonry
assise sf Chaque lit de pierre, de moellon ou de brique, prend, dans une construction, le nom d'assise. The height of the foundation varies in the mediaeval buildings because of the quality of materials which could have constructors. La hauteur des assises varie dans les édifices du moyen âge en raison de la qualité des matériaux dont pouvaient disposer les constructeurs. Everyone knows that occur in limestone soil, with benches arranged more or less thick. Chacun sait que les pierres calcaires se rencontrent sous le sol, disposées par bancs plus ou moins épais. The architects of the Middle Ages had the good sense to modify their construction due to the natural height of these benches. Les architectes du moyen âge avaient le bon esprit de modifier leur construction en raison de la hauteur naturelle de ces bancs. They thus avoided the waste of stone that are so expensive now that you submit the claims to some form of stone architecture often disagree with the height of natural stone benches. Ils évitaient ainsi ces déchets de pierre qui sont si onéreux, aujourd'hui que l'on prétend soumettre la pierre à une forme d'architecture souvent en désaccord avec la hauteur des bancs naturels des pierres. Manufacturers prior to the renaissance did not know the timber that can charge a limestone bed in a more or fewer seats. Les constructeurs antérieurs à l'époque de la renaissance ne connaissaient pas les sciages qui permettent de débiter un banc calcaire en un plus ou moins grand nombre d'assises. The stone was used as the gave careers, so the natural height of the foundation did a considerable influence on the shape of the architecture of the buildings of the same era (see: Construction ). La pierre était employée telle que la donnaient les carrières; aussi la hauteur naturelle des assises at-elle une influence considérable sur la forme de l'architecture des édifices d'une même époque (voy. Construction ).


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Note added at 42 mins (2010-11-02 21:27:15 GMT)
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sorry, part of google translation mixed in here

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2010-11-04 01:05:01 GMT)
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just had another look at all possibilities and thinking perhaps "layering" might get the stratification aspect of assises and also be part of haute couture???


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Yvonne Gallagher
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balance and structure


Explanation:
please see discussion

Richardson Lisa
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many thanks everybody for all your help! The client seems very happy with this suggestion. I realise that it is a "generalizing translation" (or hyperonym), but sometimes one has to fall back on these.
I was originally looking for something more akin semantically to "foundations", but could find nothing that really fitted in the context of haute couture design.
Notes to answerer
Asker: perhaps, given the context, I should amend "foundations" to "foundation" sans "S"!

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Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assise

Reference information:
An assise (from the Fr., derived from Latin assidere, "to sit beside"), is a geological term for two or more beds or strata of rock united by the occurrence of the same characteristic species or genera.

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