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en mesures

English translation: on employment schemes/programmes

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French term or phrase:en mesures
English translation:on employment schemes/programmes
Entered by: Paul Stevens

09:19 Sep 26, 2010
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: en mesures
I am translating a text regarding employment/unemployment and am not quite sure how "en mesures" should be translated. The relevant part of the text reads as follows:

"Jusqu’à la fin de 1997, une partie des personnes “en mesures” ont été incluses dans les DENS (demandes d'emplois non satisfaites), ce qui a conduit à une surévaluation du chômage".

Any help greatly appreciated.
Paul Stevens
Local time: 06:12
on employment programmes
Explanation:
As in, "people on employment programmes". The context of your sentence sent me in this direction, then some googling made me think it's probably "en mesures pour l'emploi". See, for instance, this mention on the Global extension of social security website (see link below), when referring to Luxembourg (which is the country your text is referring to no?):

"Demandeurs d'emplois résident indemnisés
Total demandeurs d'emploi indemnisés + personnes en mesures pour l'emploi"

So I think it is referring to people who are on one of those government programmes for finding work/getting back to work (or just covering up unemployment figures!) and who were counted in unemployment figures but 'should not' have been...
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Philippa Smith
Local time: 07:12
Grading comment
Many thanks.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +5on employment programmes
Philippa Smith
4participating in employment measures
Ingrid Stevens
Summary of reference entries provided
Baisse des personne en mesure pour l'emploi
MatthewLaSon

Discussion entries: 6





  

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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
"en mesures"
on employment programmes


Explanation:
As in, "people on employment programmes". The context of your sentence sent me in this direction, then some googling made me think it's probably "en mesures pour l'emploi". See, for instance, this mention on the Global extension of social security website (see link below), when referring to Luxembourg (which is the country your text is referring to no?):

"Demandeurs d'emplois résident indemnisés
Total demandeurs d'emploi indemnisés + personnes en mesures pour l'emploi"

So I think it is referring to people who are on one of those government programmes for finding work/getting back to work (or just covering up unemployment figures!) and who were counted in unemployment figures but 'should not' have been...


    Reference: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QjqkdvY...
Philippa Smith
Local time: 07:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 44
Grading comment
Many thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  B D Finch: Or "employment schemes".
1 hr
  -> Thanks - yes, "schemes" would be good too.
agree  Wendy Streitparth
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Wendy!
agree  Michel F. Morin
5 hrs
  -> Thanks Michel!
agree  MatthewLaSon: Yes, that's the meaning, imho.
6 hrs
  -> Thanks Matthew!
agree  Sheila Wilson
6 hrs
  -> Thanks Sheila!
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40 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
"en mesures"
participating in employment measures


Explanation:
mesures=measures, looking at "employment measures": 47500 Google hits


    Reference: http://www.gla.ac.uk/media/media_72842_en.pdf
    Reference: http://ec.europa.eu/social/BlobServlet?docId=2059&langId=en
Ingrid Stevens
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: German

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  writeaway: no of Ghits isn't necessarily a convincing argument
21 mins
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Reference comments


6 hrs
Reference: Baisse des personne en mesure pour l'emploi

Reference information:
Hello,

I think "en mesures" or "en mesure" are referring to programs to help those find employment.

en mesure = registered in an employment program
en mesures = in employment programs

Baisse des personnes en mesure pour l'emploi
Personnes en mesure pour l'emploi
CAT PU Contrat d'auxiliaire temporaire du PA Pool des assistants
CAT PR secteur public-PU et du secteur privé-PR MS Mesures Spéciales
SIE Stage d'insertion en entreprise MT Mises au travail
SRP Stage de réinsertion professionnelle FORMA Mesures de formation
ATI Affectation temporaire indemnisée CAE Contrat d'appui emploi
CIE Contrat d'initiation à l'emploi
Source: ADEM
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300
400
500
600
700
800
900
1000
CAT PU
CAT PR
SIE
SRP
FORMA
PA
MS
MT
ATI
CAE
CIE
Nombre de personnes
2004 2005 2006 2007
En 2007, le nombre de personnes engagées dans une
mesure pour l'emploi a baissé de 6.2% (245 personnes),
après des progressions de 0.9% en 2006 et 5.4% en 2005.
Cette baisse s'explique en partie par le remplacement des
CAT et des SIE par des CAE et des CIE. En effet, il y a eu un
vide entre la disparition des CAT et les SIE depuis le
second semestre 2006 et la mise en place des nouveaux
contrats (CAE et CIE) à partir de juillet 2007. Ainsi, les
premiers notent une baisse de 385 personnes en 2007 (-
22%), alors que les deuxièmes n'augmentent que de 128
personnes (+100%). Pour les autres mesures, on note une
légère hausse (+0.5% en 2007).
Au total, l'on comptait 13 356 demandeurs

I hope this helps.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-09-26 16:12:05 GMT)
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I means "Baisse des PersonneS en ...."


    Reference: http://www.statistiques.public.lu/fr/publications/series/con...
MatthewLaSon
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 52
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