cradle-to-cradle approach

Romanian translation: conceptia recilarii regenerative (cradle to cradle)

07:15 Aug 11, 2010

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Manufacturing

English term or phrase: cradle-to-cradle approach

this focus on innovative resource management is reflected by the cradle-to-cradle approach to products in..

multumesc!

Roxana Nechita KudoZ activity Questions: 14 (none open) Answers: 13
Local time: 04:52

Romanian translation:conceptia recilarii regenerative (cradle to cradle)

Explanation:
Postez pt. variatie. As include expresia originala in paranteze - fiind nume comercial, dar sub nici of forma nu propun originalul ca solutie.

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"reciclarii"

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Mi se pare mai potrivit decat un calc servil care nu spune nimanui nimic.

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Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
Local time: 04:52

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multumesc!
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conceptia recilarii regenerative (cradle to cradle)

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman

abordarea "din leagan in leagan"

Buflitel

abordare care sa tina cont de/bazata pe principii(le) de sustenabilitate ("cradle-to-cradle")

tagore

Summary of reference entries provided

cautare 'cradle-to-cradle' limba romana

Co_rina

Reciclare "regenerativa"

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman

Discussion entries: 8

mihaela.

Canada

la ora actuala ...

19:31 Aug 13, 2010

... exista Green Building Council Romania si cred ca e o directie in care doritorii pot cauta si, eventula, gasi clarificarile dorite:
http://www.rogbc.org/
Succes!

Roxana Nechita

ASKER

16:22 Aug 13, 2010

Fiind un "idiom" tehnic, vad ca s-a mers pe explicatie, insotita de termenul original, si in italiana sau spaniola.

Multumesc tuturor pentru sugestiile foarte folositoare !

Buflitel

10:57 Aug 13, 2010

aveti dreptate. poate raspunsul trebuie cautat si la profesorii universitari care predau materia de specialitate si care poate au ajuns la un consens referitor la echivalarea termenilor.

tagore

Romania

Incercare de raspuns

10:42 Aug 13, 2010

In
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_cycle_assessment
pot fi gasite explicatii ref. la acesti termeni si - daca intelegem sensul lor - ar trebui sa incercam sa gasim un echivalent acceptabil in limba romana.
Recunosc ca nu ma pricep - am aflat despre acest subiect citind intrebarea KudoZ. In plus, inainte de observatia dvs, credeam ca este vorba doar de un concept larg "William McDonough/Michael Braungart" (de aceea am dat raspunsul cu "sustenabilitatea"). Acum, ref. la etape din ciclul de viata al produsului, as incerca in fiecare caz o traducere concisa, urmata de sintagma originala, in paranteza. De ex, "de la sonda-până in rezervorul auto" ("well-to-wheel). Nu am nicio parere pentru "wheel to wheel" (mi se pare gresit).
In acest sens, as corecta raspunsul meu dat deja (care este gresit in cazul LCA.) Ideea care o am acum este : [abordare "de la productie-la reciclare" ("cradle-to-cradle")]. Este posibil ca si acest raspuns sa fie nesatisfacator, dar continui sa cred ca prin incercari succesive s-ar putea gasi o solutie corecta - din punctul meu de vedere unica- si in limba romana. Nu?

Buflitel

09:24 Aug 13, 2010

pentru acuratete, cum ati traduce conceptele relationate de "cradle to grave", "cradle to gate", "gate to gate", "wheel to wheel" etc? mie mi se pare ca parafrazarea, interpretarea, sublimarea conceptului din metafora nu reusesc intotdeauna sa surprinda esenta unor formulari atat de plastice.
vezi LCA (Life Cycle Assessment) page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_cycle_assessment

tagore

Romania

Nu este vorba de suparare ...

07:03 Aug 13, 2010

ci de un principiu general si de spiritul care ar trebui sa anime acest site (pasiune pentru traduceri, cautarea solutiei corecte, fair play). Priceperea mea are limite si sunt de acord ca pot sa gresesc, dar nu sunt de acord sa "traduc" cu buna stiinta "diafan" prin "transparent" pentru ca oricum se va intelege destul de bine despre ce este vorba ... Pe scurt si fara a ma referi in mod special la aceasta intrebare, o respingere a principiului "merge si asa".
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mihaela.

Canada

@ tagore

05:50 Aug 13, 2010

De acord ca reciclare regenerativa suna cumva pleonastic dar co-generare (termen care ar exprima mult mai bine conceptul) a fost ... luat de catre procesele cu abur si se refera la altceva :-(
Oricum, observatia cum ca sustenabilitate este o umbrela mult mai larga decat cradle-to-cradle, ramane; fara suparare.

Adriana Andronache

08:41 Aug 11, 2010

Cred ca se refera la o abordare eco-eficienta. Vezi http://www.ecomii.com/ecopedia/cradle-to-cradle

Answers

1 hr confidence:

abordarea "din leagan in leagan"

Explanation:
cf. The Dictionary of Sustainable Management, concept ecologist popularizat de catre William McDonough
"A phrase invented by Walter R. Stahel in the 1970s and popularized by William McDonough and Michael Braungart in their 2002 book of the same name. This framework seeks to create production techniques that are not just efficient but are essentially waste free."(http://www.sustainabilitydictionary.com/c/cradletocradle.php...

e.g.s in Romanian:
"William McDonough despre designul din leagan în leagan" (http://teoretic.com/2010/07/01/william-mcdonough-despre-desi...

"William McDonough despre designul din leagăn în leagăn"
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/rum/william_mcdonough_on_cradl...

Buflitel
Local time: 04:52
Native speaker of:

Romanian

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

conceptia recilarii regenerative (cradle to cradle)

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
Local time: 04:52
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Romanian
PRO pts in category: 12

Grading comment

multumesc!

1 day 12 hrs confidence:

abordare care sa tina cont de/bazata pe principii(le) de sustenabilitate ("cradle-to-cradle")

Explanation:
O sugestie.
Alaturi de cele doua ref. de mai jos, o alta ref. buna
http://www.agir.ro/buletine/275.pdf

Sper sa va ajute.

Reference: http://www.adrnordest.ro/index.php?page=PARTNERSHIPS_PROGRAM...
Reference: http://www.contabilizat.ro/file/cursuri_de_perfectionare/eco...

tagore
Romania
Local time: 04:52
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Romanian

Reference comments

1 hr peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: cautare 'cradle-to-cradle' limba romana

Reference information:
"The idea is to introduce a ‘cradle-to-cradle’ (or regenerative) approach to industrial water management and to adopt private-public partnerships as the means to achieve this." (ref 1)

"Cradle-to-cradle este un tip de evaluare a ciclului de viaţă în care faza finală, de post-utilizare este un proces de reciclare; din reciclare îşi au originea fie noi produse identice cu cele reciclate, fie produse diferite de acestea." (wikipedia)

(ar putea ramane conceptul cradle-to-cradle)

Reference: http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/1...
Reference: http://catalinratiu.info/log.aspx

Co_rina
Romania
Native speaker of:

Romanian

2 hrs

Reference: Reciclare "regenerativa"

Reference information:
Cradle to Cradle Design (sometimes abbreviated to C2C or in some circles referred to as regenerative) is a biomimetic approach to the design of systems. It models human industry on nature's processes in which materials are viewed as nutrients circulating in healthy, safe metabolisms.

Put simply, it is a holistic economic, industrial and social framework that seeks to create systems that are not just efficient but essentially waste free.[1]
The term 'C2C Certification' is a protected term of the McDonough Braungart Design Chemistry (MBDC) consultants. It is a proprietary system of certification.

In the Cradle to Cradle model, all materials used in industrial or commercial processes--such as metals, fibers, dyes--are seen to fall into one of two categories: "technical" or "biological" nutrients. Technical nutrients are strictly limited to non-toxic, non-harmful synthetic materials that have no negative effects on the natural environment; they can be used in continuous cycles as the same product without losing their integrity or quality. In this manner these materials can be used over and over again instead of being "downcycled" into lesser products, ultimately becoming waste.

The two types of materials each follow their own cycle in the regenerative economy envisioned by McDonough and Braungart.

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Romanian
PRO pts in category: 12

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