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studenti paesaggisti

English translation: students of landscape design or of landscape architecture

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Italian term or phrase:studenti paesaggisti
English translation:students of landscape design or of landscape architecture
Entered by: Being Earnest

07:37 Jun 25, 2010
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Environment & Ecology / photovoltaico
Italian term or phrase: studenti paesaggisti
si tratta del corso semestrale di Sostenibilità ambientale per studenti paesaggisti e del corso annuale di Progettazione Bioclimatica per studenti architetti, entrambi sono corsi di tecnologia.
Any ideas other than the obvious of landscapers
Being Earnest
Italy
Local time: 07:40
students of landscape design or of landscape architecture
Explanation:
A "landscaper" in my experience (and this would be in American English) is someone who works on small-scale projects, on a highly local level. In general, regular folks in the suburbs, for example, hire landscapers for their yards and gardens, or small towns hire them for local projects. Formal post-grad. training is not required to become a landscaper; knowledge is generally passed on in an apprenticeship-type situtation or gained through pre-grad training.

Landscape architects and landscape designers are hired for prestigious projects, are highly trained (post-graduation education in architecture/landscape design), in a highly competitive field. Corporations, cities, institutions, the rich and famous, etc. hire landscape designers and landscape architects.

Landscape designers/architects design city parks. Landscapers (in American English) design backyards.

You'll notice that the American landscaping students referred to in Antonio's references are studying at a local career center, a community college, and high school students. I point this out to show the difference between the two terms.

The text you are working on seems to be about students at the Italian college level or beyond. This would be students of landscape design/landscape architecture (the Italian laurea is exceedingly far more specialized than the anglo university degree and it corresponds to post-grad level of training.)

[The difference between landscape architects and landscape designers varies according to the speaker, but from one well-adhered to viewpoint, the difference is in name, only: the word architect tends to get more respect in certain professional circles, the word designer, less.]

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Italy:

AIAPP (Italian Association of Landscape Architecture)is the Italian association of professional landscape architects formed in 1950 and is a member of EFLA and IFLA. AIAPP is in the process of contesting this new law which has given the Architects’ Association the new title of Architects, Landscape Architects, Planners and Conservationists whether or not they have had any training or experience in any of these fields other than Architecture. At the same time the Existence of AIAPP has been totally ignored in spite of its international recognition [2] In Italy there are several different professions involved in landscape architecture :

* Architetti (Architects)
* Paesaggisti (Landscape designs)
* Dottori Agronomi Paesaggisti e Dottori Forestali Paesaggisti (Doctor landscape agronomists and Doctor landscape foresters)
* Periti Agrari e Periti Agrari Laureati (Agrarian Experts and Graduated Agrarian experts)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_architecture

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"Paesaggio e paesaggisti nell'istruzione superiore francese" =
"Landscape and "landscape architects in the french superior education"

http://www.projetsdepaysage.fr/fr/fr/paesaggio_e_paesaggisti...


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S E (X)
Italy
Local time: 07:40
Grading comment
thanks and well put
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +4students of landscape design or of landscape architecture
S E (X)
3 +2Landscaping Students
Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
4 +1landscape architecture students
Daniela Ciafardoni
3 -1landscape painting students
Gad Kohenov


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Landscaping Students


Explanation:
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http://www.newstopic.net/view/full_story/7003970/article-Lan...

http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2010/04/22/news/doc4bd09...

http://www.scoe.net/news/library/2010/march/24plant_sale.htm...

Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ellen Kraus: yes, or students specializing in landscaping; but that´s a bit too wordy, I think.
23 mins
  -> Ellen, thank you, Antonio
agree  Mr Murray (X): I like this
2 hrs
  -> Mr Murray, thank you, Antonio
neutral  S E (X): The students in these refs. are high school and comm. college students training for one kind of work. The students in the trans text are studying at the next level and training for a different kind of work. Different jobs, different titles, related fields
4 hrs
  -> I see, so u seem to think there are students and students?
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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
landscape painting students


Explanation:
Could be.

Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 08:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in HebrewHebrew
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  S E (X): Respectfully disagree. These students are studying environmental sustainability (not fine art), as explained in the context given surrounding the term in question.
3 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
landscape architecture students


Explanation:
Another option.
Daniela

Daniela Ciafardoni
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Dana Rinaldi
3 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
students of landscape design or of landscape architecture


Explanation:
A "landscaper" in my experience (and this would be in American English) is someone who works on small-scale projects, on a highly local level. In general, regular folks in the suburbs, for example, hire landscapers for their yards and gardens, or small towns hire them for local projects. Formal post-grad. training is not required to become a landscaper; knowledge is generally passed on in an apprenticeship-type situtation or gained through pre-grad training.

Landscape architects and landscape designers are hired for prestigious projects, are highly trained (post-graduation education in architecture/landscape design), in a highly competitive field. Corporations, cities, institutions, the rich and famous, etc. hire landscape designers and landscape architects.

Landscape designers/architects design city parks. Landscapers (in American English) design backyards.

You'll notice that the American landscaping students referred to in Antonio's references are studying at a local career center, a community college, and high school students. I point this out to show the difference between the two terms.

The text you are working on seems to be about students at the Italian college level or beyond. This would be students of landscape design/landscape architecture (the Italian laurea is exceedingly far more specialized than the anglo university degree and it corresponds to post-grad level of training.)

[The difference between landscape architects and landscape designers varies according to the speaker, but from one well-adhered to viewpoint, the difference is in name, only: the word architect tends to get more respect in certain professional circles, the word designer, less.]

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Note added at 4 hrs (2010-06-25 12:15:49 GMT)
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Italy:

AIAPP (Italian Association of Landscape Architecture)is the Italian association of professional landscape architects formed in 1950 and is a member of EFLA and IFLA. AIAPP is in the process of contesting this new law which has given the Architects’ Association the new title of Architects, Landscape Architects, Planners and Conservationists whether or not they have had any training or experience in any of these fields other than Architecture. At the same time the Existence of AIAPP has been totally ignored in spite of its international recognition [2] In Italy there are several different professions involved in landscape architecture :

* Architetti (Architects)
* Paesaggisti (Landscape designs)
* Dottori Agronomi Paesaggisti e Dottori Forestali Paesaggisti (Doctor landscape agronomists and Doctor landscape foresters)
* Periti Agrari e Periti Agrari Laureati (Agrarian Experts and Graduated Agrarian experts)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_architecture

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Note added at 5 hrs (2010-06-25 13:10:22 GMT)
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"Paesaggio e paesaggisti nell'istruzione superiore francese" =
"Landscape and "landscape architects in the french superior education"

http://www.projetsdepaysage.fr/fr/fr/paesaggio_e_paesaggisti...




S E (X)
Italy
Local time: 07:40
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
thanks and well put

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral: IMVHO this is a bit of an overtranslation
14 mins
  -> There is no overtranslation. The sources I cite above state that in the field of landscape architecture in Italy, landscape designers and landscape architects are called paesaggisti.
agree  Russell Jones: Much the best solution
1 hr
  -> Many thanks, Russell!
agree  Daniela Zambrini
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Daniela.
agree  Rachel Fell
8 hrs
  -> Thank you, Rachel.
agree  Angie Garbarino
23 hrs
  -> Thank you, Angio.
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