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феодальная разобщенность

English translation: feudal disunion

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Russian term or phrase:феодальная раздробленность
English translation:feudal disunion
Entered by: zmejka

18:25 Apr 4, 2010
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - History
Russian term or phrase: феодальная разобщенность
пожалуйста, не предлагайте feudal disunity, все ссылки ведут на русскоязычные сайты, это всегда плохой знак

контекст
В период феодальной раздробленности в XIV-XVII веках Анакопия утрачивает свое политическое и экономическое значение, а во время турецкой оккупации полностью обезлюдела.
zmejka
Local time: 12:30
fragmentation OR disunion
Explanation:
Regarding "disunion," that is the English word you'd use for a state of being geographically or politically broken up, whereas "disunity" is more of a spiritual condition.

With either of these choices, it would be better to use some formulation like "the fragmentation typical of [associated with] [caused by] feudalism" or "fragmentation under feudalism," than "feudal fragmentation."

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Note added at 19 mins (2010-04-04 18:45:08 GMT)
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... although many authors, found by Judith's search, disagree with me on that last point.
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Rachel Douglas
United States
Local time: 05:30
Grading comment
всем большое спасибо за ваши варианты!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4feudal fragmentation
Judith Hehir
5 +1feudal disunity (feudal division)
Alieksei Seniukovich
4 +2fragmentation OR disunion
Rachel Douglas
4feudal division
erika rubinstein
4feudal feuds
Victor Zagria
4feudal discord
Alexandra Taggart
4feudal disjunction
Michael Korovkin
3feudal dissociation
Yuri Smirnov


Discussion entries: 4





  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
feudal division


Explanation:
http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:A5rtM726DzIJ:dic.academi...


У вас в тексте раздробленность

erika rubinstein
Local time: 11:30
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Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 28
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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
feudal disunity (feudal division)


Explanation:
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Note added at 1 min (2010-04-04 18:27:17 GMT)
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В принципе, проблемы нет. В эл. словаре Lingvo X3 дан именно такой перевод:


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Feudal disunity and internecine strife hindered the economic and cultural progress and considerably weakened the defense capacity of the Kazakh states. ...
It was the rule by a people who had already overcome feudal disunity of their country based on feudal economy and integrated themselves into a modern nation ...
И т. д.

Alieksei Seniukovich
Poland
Local time: 11:30
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lina Episheva
7 mins
  -> Спасибо!
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
feudal dissociation


Explanation:
Russian History - Российская история - Russian Language Lessons
(152k) XI-XIII века известны как период феодальной раздробленности на Руси. ... XI-XIII centuries are familiar as a period of feudal dissociation in Russia. ...
www.russianlessons.net/articles/russianhistory.php

Просто еще один вариант. Качество перевода по ссылке не очень...


Yuri Smirnov
Local time: 12:30
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in BelarusianBelarusian, Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 14
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
feudal fragmentation


Explanation:
This might be what you are looking for.

http://www.google.com/search?q=feudal fragmentation&ie=utf-8...

Judith Hehir
United States
Local time: 05:30
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Angela Greenfield
3 mins
  -> Thank you, Angela.
agree  DTSM: 100 per cent on that
55 mins
  -> Thanks, Dimak.
agree  Andrew Stefanovsky
10 hrs
  -> Thank you, Andrew.
agree  Olga Cartlidge
16 hrs
  -> Thank you, Olga.
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
fragmentation OR disunion


Explanation:
Regarding "disunion," that is the English word you'd use for a state of being geographically or politically broken up, whereas "disunity" is more of a spiritual condition.

With either of these choices, it would be better to use some formulation like "the fragmentation typical of [associated with] [caused by] feudalism" or "fragmentation under feudalism," than "feudal fragmentation."

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Note added at 19 mins (2010-04-04 18:45:08 GMT)
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... although many authors, found by Judith's search, disagree with me on that last point.

Rachel Douglas
United States
Local time: 05:30
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 91
Grading comment
всем большое спасибо за ваши варианты!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  gutbuster: feudal patchwork
10 hrs
  -> Thank you.
agree  Victor Zagria: yeah, ..disunion
15 hrs
  -> Thanks, Victor.
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
feudal feuds


Explanation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feud
Feud
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For other uses, see Feud (disambiguation).
"Avenger of blood" redirects here. For the biblical and Jewish concepts, see Goel.
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Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (March 2007)
Look up feud in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
A feud (pronounced /ˈfjuːd/) (referred to in more extreme cases as a blood feud or vendetta or faida) is a long-running argument or fight between parties—often, through association fallacy, groups of people, especially families or clans. Feuds begin because one party (correctly or incorrectly) perceives itself to have been attacked, insulted or wronged by another. Intense feelings of resentment trigger the initial revenge, which causes the other party to feel equally aggrieved and vengeful. The dispute is subsequently fuelled by a long-running cycle of retaliatory violence. This continual cycle of provocation and retaliation makes it extremely difficult to end the feud peacefully. Feuds frequently involve the original parties' family members and/or associates, can last for generations and may result in extreme acts of violence.

Until the early modern period, feuds were considered legitimate legal instruments and were regulated to some degree. Once modern centralizing states asserted and enforced a monopoly on legitimate use of force, feuds became illegal and the concept acquired its current negative connotation.

like 'family feuds', you know..

Victor Zagria
Native speaker of: Native in UkrainianUkrainian, Native in RussianRussian
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
feudal discord


Explanation:
- opposte of "concord", "consensus" or"harmony".
http://lhomulo.ulim.md/wp-content/uploads/2009/C/RENAISSANCE...

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Then - "Feudal Fractuation":
http://books.google.com/books?id=sY9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA266&lpg=P...

Alexandra Taggart
Russian Federation
Local time: 12:30
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RussianRussian
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1 day 20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
feudal disjunction


Explanation:
In other words an aglomeration of disjointed fiefdoms or "feuds".

Michael Korovkin
Italy
Local time: 11:30
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 36
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