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militaire et ingénieur de formation

English translation: member of the armed forces and qualified engineer

13:05 Mar 8, 2010
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
International Org/Dev/Coop
French term or phrase: militaire et ingénieur de formation
militaire et ingénieur de formation, Mr Dupont devint pilote d'essais ....
JM Fayolle
France
English translation:member of the armed forces and qualified engineer
Explanation:
or engineer by profession - in other words he's studied engineering

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-08 15:00:13 GMT)
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militaire can be anything in French - soldier, sailor, airman
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SJLD
Local time: 19:00
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3member of the armed forces and qualified engineer
SJLD
4 +1A military man and an engineer by trade
Jean-Claude Gouin
4soldier and trained engineer
Catharine Cellier-Smart
4A soldier and engineer by training
B D Finch
4 -1serviceman and training officer
Chris Hall


  

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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
soldier and trained engineer


Explanation:
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Catharine Cellier-Smart
Reunion
Local time: 21:00
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
serviceman and training officer


Explanation:
militaire et ingénieur de formation
=
serviceman and training officer

WR and GDT are useful sources here.

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WR = http://www.wordreference.com/fren/
GDT = http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index102...

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ingénieur de formation n. m.
training officer


Définition :
Prépare seul ou en équipe l'animation pédagogique d'un groupe, propose des procédures pour assurer la progression du groupe et permettre d'atteindre ses objectifs.


Sous-entrée(s) :
quasi-synonyme(s)
ingénieur formateur n. m.
ingénieur-formateur n. m.

Note(s) :
Ayant de l'expérience en pédagogie, il sera chargé de la conception et de la diffusion des séminaires standards ou spécifiques à un client. Peut intervenir sur des contrats à l'étranger. Il sera responsable de la mise en œuvre d'un programme de formation aux systèmes de gestion. Il interviendra personnellement et assurera la formation de formateurs locaux.


Chris Hall
Local time: 18:00
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Rob Grayson: "de formation" has nothing to do with being a training officer. It means he's a qualified engineer.
4 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
member of the armed forces and qualified engineer


Explanation:
or engineer by profession - in other words he's studied engineering

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-08 15:00:13 GMT)
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militaire can be anything in French - soldier, sailor, airman

SJLD
Local time: 19:00
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: armed forces is as vague as militaire. good solution (text does say he's a test pilot after all......)
25 mins
  -> thanks P! ;-)
agree  Rob Grayson
3 hrs
  -> thanks Rob :-)
agree  Simon Mac
8 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
A military man and an engineer by trade


Explanation:
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Jean-Claude Gouin
Canada
Local time: 13:00
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  BEVERLY OATES HREHOROW
19 mins
  -> Thank you Beverly for your approval ... and welcome to ProZ.com ...
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
A soldier and engineer by training


Explanation:
I assume that "de formation" might refer to both "militaire" and "ingénieur".

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"... (*Rifleman by Training, Clerk-Typist by Accident. In North Africa, Italy, and Austria) (9781403331557): Wallace J. Gordon: Books."
www.amazon.com › ... › Leaders & Notable People › Military

"Dr Dimitri CORPAKIS, an engineer by training, has to date more than 26 years experience in European affairs. Before joining the ..."
sciencecommons.org/wp-content

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Note added at 1 day54 mins (2010-03-09 14:00:11 GMT)
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One can be an engineer by training (formation) but never work as an engineer, perhaps moving on to work as a business manager, actor, writer of novels ... as a preferred career choice.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 19:00
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
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