vendeur de titres au porteur

English translation: bond salesman

14:30 Jan 12, 2010
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Finance (general)
French term or phrase: vendeur de titres au porteur
A la fin des années vingt, le père de Clint Eastwood est vendeur de titres au porteur… Autant essayer, comme dans un film de Laurel Hardy de la même époque (Big Business) de vendre des sapins de Noel en plein été.
Can someone tell me what this means. Is it some kind of travelling salesman - selling shares? This would make sense as it was during the Great Depression when no one had any money (reference to Laurel & Hardy film).
Sarah Robertson
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:13
English translation:bond salesman
Explanation:
I went hunting for good references in English to Clinton Eastwood, Snr, and found this:

...1930 Clinton Eastwood Jr., oldest child of Clinton Eastwood Sr., a bond salesman, and Ruth Runner Eastwood, is born on 31 May in San Francisco. ...

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Note added at 58 mins (2010-01-12 15:29:27 GMT)
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As this is a real person, I don't think there's much sense in reinventing the wheel regarding the name of his profession. Found a few more links, and a variant – 'bonds salesman'.

READER'S DIGEST: http://www.readersdigest.com.au/life/rd-face-to-face-clint-e...

And here, from KIRKUS: http://www.amazon.com/Clint-Eastwood-Riding-Douglas-Thompson...

Bond sales are an issue in one of Eastwood Jnr's films: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2006/dec/15/3

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Note added at 7 hrs (2010-01-12 21:59:37 GMT)
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Rather, 'as this is a real person who lived and worked in an Anglophone country'!
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Nora Mahony
Ireland
Local time: 05:13
Grading comment
Thanks went for this in the end.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2bond salesman
Nora Mahony
4 +1Bearer shares/securities salesman
jmleger
3 +1Bearer securities salesman
Catharine Cellier-Smart
3bearer securities salesman, stock and bond salesman
joehlindsay
3 -1bearer securities'dealer
Sébastien GUITTENY


  

Answers


13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
bearer securities'dealer


Explanation:
Dealer seemed to me better than salesman or tradesman.


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Sébastien GUITTENY
France
Local time: 06:13
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  rkillings: But dealers buy AND sell -- more than is implied by 'vendeur'.
11 hrs
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Bearer securities salesman


Explanation:
see http://books.google.com/books?id=JaRWwRN6QJcC&pg=PA116&lpg=P...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_(finance)#Bearer_secur...
Bearer securities are completely negotiable and entitle the holder to the rights under the security (e.g. to payment if it is a debt security, and voting if it is an equity security). They are transferred by delivering the instrument from person to person. In some cases, transfer is by endorsement, or signing the back of the instrument, and delivery.


Catharine Cellier-Smart
Reunion
Local time: 08:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 98

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agree  rkillings
11 hrs
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Bearer shares/securities salesman


Explanation:
Je ne sais pas pourquoi ca pose un probleme avant 1929, periode a laquelle meme les cireurs de chaussures donnaient des tuyaux de placement. Apres le Black Tuesday, je comprends que cela devienne plus problématique d'essayer d'écouler des titres qui ne valaient pas la papier sur lequel ils étaient imprimés.

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Note added at 17 mins (2010-01-12 14:48:00 GMT)
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On trouve le mot "salesman" dans les contrats de ventes d'actions. Dealer, c'est pas du porte à porte. C'est un peu l'équivalent de broker, c.-à-d. courtier.

jmleger
Local time: 23:13
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Travelin Ann: or "bearer bond"
37 mins
  -> Definitely yes, "bond" if the man peddling "obligations", as opposed to securities.
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
bond salesman


Explanation:
I went hunting for good references in English to Clinton Eastwood, Snr, and found this:

...1930 Clinton Eastwood Jr., oldest child of Clinton Eastwood Sr., a bond salesman, and Ruth Runner Eastwood, is born on 31 May in San Francisco. ...

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Note added at 58 mins (2010-01-12 15:29:27 GMT)
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As this is a real person, I don't think there's much sense in reinventing the wheel regarding the name of his profession. Found a few more links, and a variant – 'bonds salesman'.

READER'S DIGEST: http://www.readersdigest.com.au/life/rd-face-to-face-clint-e...

And here, from KIRKUS: http://www.amazon.com/Clint-Eastwood-Riding-Douglas-Thompson...

Bond sales are an issue in one of Eastwood Jnr's films: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2006/dec/15/3

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Note added at 7 hrs (2010-01-12 21:59:37 GMT)
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Rather, 'as this is a real person who lived and worked in an Anglophone country'!


    Reference: http://books.google.com/books?id=xtcOxK2RlDoC&pg=PR21&lpg=PR...
Nora Mahony
Ireland
Local time: 05:13
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks went for this in the end.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cmwilliams (X)
33 mins
  -> Thanks!

agree  Stephanie Ezrol
4 hrs
  -> Many thanks!
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
bearer securities salesman, stock and bond salesman


Explanation:
Technically 'titre au porteur' means 'bearer security', however, this does not look like a technical text. For laymen, I'd just go with 'stock and bond salesman'

The difference between a stock broker and a stock and bond salesman, was that mostly in the old days, people often kept paper copies of stocks and bonds at home themselves, rather than have a brokerage be the custodian and hold them for them.

A 'vendeur de titres' was this kind of salesman. He sold the stocks and bonds directly to customers, and they kept them themselves.

joehlindsay
Local time: 23:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 272
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