déploiement

English translation: when subsidiaries are established

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French term or phrase:	lors du déploiement des filiales
English translation:	when subsidiaries are established
Entered by:	Joelle Glore (X)

03:29 Dec 13, 2009

French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general)

French term or phrase: déploiement

Dear fellow translators,

- PRIX DES FOURNITURES
● Les prix mentionnés dans le fichier list of items and volumes sont nets, HT, franco domicile, en référence au paquetage spécifié, exprimés en Francs suisses (CHF) et valables jusqu’au XXX (la date).
Lors du **déploiement** de vos filiales, l’offre de prix sera appliquée dans la monnaie de pays de celles-ci.

Many thanks in advance as always for your invaluable help.

Chris Hall KudoZ activity Questions: 118 (none open) (16 closed without grading) Answers: 1131
Local time: 11:10

when subsidiaries are established

Explanation:
I think we have enough context here, and there is no "swisse-isme". It means that subsidiaries will be established in the future and then the prices will be mentioned in the currency of the country where the subsidiaries are. "At the establishment of subsidiaries" could be another solution, and this is what is said in French, but I wouldn't use the noun in English.

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http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-14438270.html
http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/2009/11/11/ana-lcc-sub...
http://www.straumann.com/undefined.htm/ci_ch_pr_ivoclar_0712...
Links about establishing subsidiaries

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Joelle Glore (X)
France
Local time: 11:10

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Summary of answers provided

4 +4

when subsidiaries are established

Joelle Glore (X)

3 +2

concerns

Bashiqa

4 +1

operational

Philippa Smith

deployment

rkillings

3 -1

on despachment

David Hollywood

at installation/implementation (of the product) at subsidiaries..

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman

Discussion entries: 8

Bourth (X)

Context?

11:26 Dec 13, 2009

I know you say "I have provided the context as I always do", but as a rule people can never provide enough of same. Is the writer (as opposed to vous) the buyer or the seller? Lors du strikes me as odd, implying that it is a "given" that subsidiaries of the party contracting to supply will provide the goods (assuming I'm interpreting all this correctly). I wonder if rather than "when", "if" might not be more appropriate. Also, what sort of goods are involved, and is there a possibility that services might also be involved? Déploiement tends to imply deployment (of the subsidiaries, to provide a service), possibly to install the goods supplied by the parent company for example. No? You thank us for our help, but fellow ProZedders can best help those who help themselves.

Emma Paulay

France

Set up/roll out

09:11 Dec 13, 2009

I agree with Karen that it sounds like foreign branches are either to be set up in the future or that the product will be supplied to them at a later date.
In this particular case, it would help to know what's going on in the rest of the document, where the doc comes from and to whom it is addressed (not names - just descriptions). Context isn't always about surrounding sentences.

Karen Stokes

United Kingdom

08:45 Dec 13, 2009

It sounds to me as though the company to which the goods are being supplied is *setting up* a number of subsidiaries. Is that the case?

Travelin Ann

04:07 Dec 13, 2009

Chris, just because you are in the UK does not without further detail tell your fellow translators that the target audience for the translation is the UK.

Chris Hall

ASKER

Target audience...

04:00 Dec 13, 2009

I am UK English. The whole text is discussing a Swiss company, whose name shall remain undisclosed.

Travelin Ann

03:51 Dec 13, 2009

Target audience?

Chris Hall

ASKER

Have you a helpful answer to the term?

03:36 Dec 13, 2009

I have provided the context as I always do.

Travelin Ann

Target audience?

03:34 Dec 13, 2009

as you often say, context is critical. Target audience is a critical part of context - what works for UK does not always work for US/CA/NZ/AU.

Answers

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

déploiement (in this context) on despachment

Explanation:
I would say ...

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Payment will be taken on despachment of products.</td>"); echo("</tr>"); echo("</table>"); ...
www.phpbuilder.com/board/showthread.php?p=10711163 - Cached

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Note added at 8 mins (2009-12-13 03:37:24 GMT)
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should read "despatchment"

David Hollywood
Local time: 07:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 55

Notes to answerer

Asker: Does "On/upon despachment of your subsidiaries" make any sense though?

1 hr confidence:

déploiement (in this context) at installation/implementation (of the product) at subsidiaries..

Explanation:
I assume this is what it means.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-12-13 05:26:48 GMT)
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Payment for products ordered for subsidiaries will be billed in local currency, at the quoted price.

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
Local time: 13:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Romanian
PRO pts in category: 173

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

déploiement (in this context) concerns

Explanation:
When this concerns your subsidiaries .......

Not an exact translation but states quite clearly what happens.

Bashiqa
France
Local time: 12:10
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 66

8 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

when subsidiaries are established

Joelle Glore (X)
France
Local time: 11:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

Selected automatically based on peer agreement.

Notes to answerer

Asker: I like this answer very much. Thank you Joelle G. Kind regards, Chris.

10 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

operational

Explanation:
I agree with Joelle that the context is clear - it seems to me that it simply means when the subsidiaries are up and running - but I'd use something along the lines of "operational", to give a sense of the subsidairies having been set up, but have not yet necessarily started up their business (and when they do, .....).

Philippa Smith
Local time: 12:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 71

23 hrs confidence:

deployment

Explanation:
This one word is not your translation problem here. It has pretty much the same meanings as its English cognate. Jargony in both languages, too.

There is a comprehension problem, but it's a question of figuring out who is doing the deploying and what is being deployed. Without more context, we can't help.

Faute de mieux, you could put "At the time of deployment XXX your subsidiaries", where XXX is a preposition of your choosing.:-)

rkillings
United States
Local time: 03:10
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 278

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