j�droviny

English translation: pome/pomes, pome fruit(s), pomaceous fruit

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Czech term or phrase:	jádroviny
English translation:	pome/pomes, pome fruit(s), pomaceous fruit
Entered by:	Dylan Edwards

16:33 Oct 25, 2009

Czech to English translations [PRO]
Science - Agriculture / pesticide instructions

Czech term or phrase: j�droviny

Is this a collective term for fruit with cores? If so, can I say "apples and pears", or are there any other fruits in this category?

I remain unconvinced by "corestock", which I found in the www.volny.cz dictionary. "Core stock" may refer to core crops or livestock (i.e. not "core" as in "apple core").
Likewise, "kernelled fruit", which I found in Poldauf, is a confusing, ambiguous term. I would use the word "kernel" mainly for the edible part of nuts.

Dylan Edwards KudoZ activity Questions: 1844 (12 open) (62 closed without grading) Answers: 1033 United Kingdom
Local time: 18:24

pome/pomes

Explanation:
Typically, the fruit of an apple, pear, quince, hawthorn, or related plant in the family Rosaceae, or rose family. Technically, it is a fleshy fruit enclosing several seeds.

Selected response from:

Barbara Heyes
Slovakia
Local time: 19:24

Grading comment

Thank you. I've noticed how often jádroviny and peckoviny are contrasted: I take these to be pomes and drupes.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +1

pome/pomes

Barbara Heyes

core fruit

Maria Chmelarova

corestock

Scott Evan Andrews

pome fruit

Igor Seykora

Discussion entries: 5

Radovan Pletka

United States

jadroviny

18:44 Oct 25, 2009

Viz wikipedia.cz
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovoce
Jako ovoce označujeme zpravidla sladké jedlé plody, plodenství nebo semena víceletých semenných rostlin, nejčastěji dřevin. Věda, která se zabývá posuzováním jednotlivých odrůd ovoce, se nazývá pomologie. Starořímskou bohyní ovoce či ovocnářství byla Pomona, jinak chápaná jako personifikace ovoce. Ovoce je velmi významným zdrojem vitamínů.

Ovoce obvykle rozdělujeme na ovoce mírného pásu, tropické a subtropické ovoce.

Neexistuje jednotná definice pojmu ovoce. Jedinou možností, jak přesně určit, co je a co není ovocem, je určit toto dohodou a taxativně vyjmenovat.
Ovoce mírného pásu

* Jádroviny (jabloň - jablka, hrušeň - hrušky)
* Peckoviny (třešeň - třešně, broskvoň - broskve, slivoň - švestky, meruňky a ringle)
* Skořápkoviny (líska - lískový ořech, ořešák - vlašský ořech, kaštan, burský oříšek)
* Drobné ovoce (borůvka, brusinka, černý rybíz, červený rybíz, bílý rybíz, angrešt, klikva, vinná réva - hroznové víno, maliník - malina, ostružiník - ostružina, jahodník - jahoda, moruše)

Tropické a subtropické

Maria Chmelarova

No,

17:59 Oct 25, 2009

it is not enough to write just apples and similar fruit for jadroviny.
Jadroviny are all fruits which they have jadro-core (like apples and pears or ...)
and zrnoviny ( wheat, barley, oat and etc.;) they have zrno-kernel

Martin Janda

Czech Republic

can't you use a get-around?

17:39 Oct 25, 2009

Just write 'apples and similar fruit'?

Dylan Edwards

United Kingdom

ASKER

If I'm right in thinking that jádroviny refers to

17:07 Oct 25, 2009

fruit, I'd like to know exactly what is included in the category "jádroviny", and what isn't.

Dylan Edwards

United Kingdom

ASKER

From the information available to me,

16:52 Oct 25, 2009

I know this pesticide is used on hops, vines and apple trees.
In this particular document, there's a column headed "plodiny" (in the instructions for use), and under that heading there are two items: jádroviny, chmel.

Answers

5 mins confidence:

corestock

Explanation:
from Ang/CZ Technicky slovnik od TZ-one

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Note added at 10 mins (2009-10-25 16:43:42 GMT)
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although.....http://www.yourdictionary.com/kernelled

Scott Evan Andrews
United States
Local time: 19:24
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: There's the kernel that you eat, and the core that you chuck away... I'm not sure about "corestock": it may have various technical meanings that I don't know.

Asker: You know why I'm asking this question? It's because I think none of the dictionaries/glossaries I've come across have got it right. When I google for images of jádroviny, I find mainly apples, and some pears.

56 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

pome/pomes

Explanation:
Typically, the fruit of an apple, pear, quince, hawthorn, or related plant in the family Rosaceae, or rose family. Technically, it is a fleshy fruit enclosing several seeds.

Reference: http://www.answers.com/topic/pome

Barbara Heyes
Slovakia
Local time: 19:24
Native speaker of:

Slovak,

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you. I've noticed how often jádroviny and peckoviny are contrasted: I take these to be pomes and drupes.

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks. This looks like a good match for "jádroviny" as used here - and it's borne out by Radovan's link too.

Asker: Well, I'm learning all the time: pyracantha (firethorn), for example, has "berry-like pomes".

12 hrs confidence:

core fruit

Explanation:
perhaps - core fruit stock
k jadrovinam patria vsetky druhy ovocia, ktore maju jadrovnik-core s viacerymi malymi jadrami.
Core - the central part of a freshly fruit, containing the seeds.
That is basic definition and classification of fruit.

Categories of fruits:
fleshy fruits: berries - bobule (ribezla and more )
drupes - peckovice/ kôstkovice (slivka and more )
pomes - malvice (jablko, hruska and more)
dry fruits: nuts - oriešok
grains - obilka
Or find www.waynesword.palomar.edu, more complicated classification.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2009-10-26 13:57:58 GMT)
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Dylan, malvice patria do kategorie - jadroviny ako aj kostkovice, bobule atd. Patri tam ovsem ovela viac ovocia a nielen malvice, ale aj pomarance a to nie je malvica.

Maria Chmelarova
Local time: 13:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Slovak
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you for bringing the word malvice to my attention. A couple of Slovak sources seem to treat it as a synonym of jadroviny: malvice (jadroviny) - jablko, hruška, dula, jarabina a mišpuľa,. b) kóstkovice (kôstkoviny) - čerešňa, višňa, marhuľa, broskyňa, mandľa, slivka, sliva, ... www.tormas.sk/index.php/Pestovanie-ovocia/.../Page-2.html

1 day 3 hrs confidence:

jádroviny pome fruit

Explanation:
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Igor Seykora
Czech Republic
Local time: 19:24
Native speaker of:

Czech

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