大浪淘沙

English translation: sifting process

16:31 Jul 6, 2009
Chinese to English translations [PRO]
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Chinese term or phrase: 大浪淘沙
Context: 一个大浪淘沙的过程 Need an adjective if possible. Thanks.
xiaoyanchen
Local time: 18:29
English translation:sifting process
Explanation:
Also "filtering" or lai an's "winnowing" would do.

Other phrases that might be used, depending on context, include "sorting the wheat from the chaff," "sorting the men from the boys" and "cream rises to the top".

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I am not sure this phrase can be translated without changing the structure a little. The author is evoking Darwinian selection, which is elegantly captured by the Chinese idiom, but not easily reduced to a single adjective in English.

I would use "a process of Darwinian survival" or "a selective process wherein the fit survive and the weak are eliminated" (thanks Denyce). "Selective" and "eliminative" are open to misinterpretation if used without qualifiers.

If you must have one word, I think lai an's "winnowing process" is the best (but even then, it begs for a qualifier, eg. "...is a winnowing process wherein the fit survive and the weak are eliminated").

Hope this helps.
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Michael Lickorish
Australia
Local time: 11:59
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Summary of answers provided
3A selection process
Wenjun Cao
3"Gold and Sand"
chica nueva
3sifting process
Michael Lickorish
2the fit survives and the weak gets eliminated
Denyce Seow


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A selection process


Explanation:
...a selection process...

Wenjun Cao
United States
Local time: 22:29
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Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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"Gold and Sand"


Explanation:
http://www.dianying.com/en/title/dlt1977
Name of a film (PRC) 1977

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http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:Xok1XsfB1mcJ:www.itzhe....

在这个大浪淘沙的过程中,支付行业前景何去何从?
in the process that cleans out sand in this sea, pay industry foreground what course to follow?
http://www.itzhe.cn/news/20090527/391585.html

purging, cleansing ??

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'trimming fat' ? 'streamlining'?

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'winnowing' ?

chica nueva
Local time: 14:29
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Asker: lai an, I am sorry that the links you provided give texts translated by machines and therefore have no authority.

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the fit survives and the weak gets eliminated


Explanation:
Does this fit the context?

Denyce Seow
Singapore
Local time: 10:29
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
sifting process


Explanation:
Also "filtering" or lai an's "winnowing" would do.

Other phrases that might be used, depending on context, include "sorting the wheat from the chaff," "sorting the men from the boys" and "cream rises to the top".

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Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2009-07-07 23:03:21 GMT)
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I am not sure this phrase can be translated without changing the structure a little. The author is evoking Darwinian selection, which is elegantly captured by the Chinese idiom, but not easily reduced to a single adjective in English.

I would use "a process of Darwinian survival" or "a selective process wherein the fit survive and the weak are eliminated" (thanks Denyce). "Selective" and "eliminative" are open to misinterpretation if used without qualifiers.

If you must have one word, I think lai an's "winnowing process" is the best (but even then, it begs for a qualifier, eg. "...is a winnowing process wherein the fit survive and the weak are eliminated").

Hope this helps.

Example sentence(s):
  • Recruitment Sifting is the process of applying one or more processes, or steps, in order to produce a short-list...
  • QuickSift is an effective addition to your candidate sifting process.

    Reference: http://www.hrworkbench.com/eng/l-recruitment-sifting.html
    Reference: http://www.shl.com/WhatWeDo/PersonalityAssessment/Pages/Quic...
Michael Lickorish
Australia
Local time: 11:59
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, but I need an adjective. Do you think "selective" or "eliminative" will do?

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