sans contrat préalable

English translation: without prenuptial agreement

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French term or phrase:sans contrat préalable (de mariage)
English translation:without prenuptial agreement
Entered by: swanda

03:37 Apr 24, 2009
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs / extrait d'acte de mariage
French term or phrase: sans contrat préalable
I'm translating an extrait d'acte de mariage, and it has the phrase 'sans contrat préalable' at the end. I'm assuming this is referring to a prenuptial agreement (and it looks like http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/law_patents/2361... supports this, although it's in a different context), but just wanted to check to see if anyone else had seen this before/has a better wording.

Full context is (as it's set out on the page):

"Le [date] a été célébré en notre commune

le mariage de [noms]

sans contrat préalable."

So something like:

"On [date], the marriage of [names]

was celebrated in our commune, without a/with no prenuptial agreement."

Any help would be appreciated.
Craftiful
Local time: 01:10
without prenuptial agreement
Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement

"A prenuptial agreement, antenuptial agreement, or premarital agreement, commonly abbreviated to prenup or prenupt, is a contract entered into prior to marriage or civil union by the people intending to marry. The content of a prenuptial agreement can vary widely, but commonly includes provisions for division of property and spousal support in the event of divorce or breakup of marriage.

Many countries, including Canada (Quebec), France, Italy, and Germany, have matrimonial regimes, in addition to, or some cases, in lieu of prenuptial agreements.

As of 2007, England and Wales do not enforce prenuptial agreements, but agreements may be upheld at the judge's discretion. These countries also do not have a provision for marital regimes.

There are two types of prenuptial agreements: marriage contract for people who are married or about to be married, and cohabitation agreement for unmarried couples. A variation for people who are already married is a postnuptial agreement, also called a postmarital agreement."

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www.investopedia.com/terms/p/prenuptialagreement.asp
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
http://www.nolo.com/resource.cfm/catID/BD0FF030-3064-4680-B4...
http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/marriage-agreements/
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swanda
Local time: 15:10
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Thanks everyone!
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4 +4without prenuptial agreement
swanda
5 -1without premarital agreement
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without premarital agreement


Explanation:
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Carmen Lapadat
Romania
Local time: 16:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  writeaway: pre-nuptial agreement in English, which is what Asker suggested. any refs to back 100% confidence?
2 hrs

neutral  kashew: AN agreement (contract)
3 hrs

disagree  Louise Souter (X): I agree with writeaway.
9 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
without prenuptial agreement


Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement

"A prenuptial agreement, antenuptial agreement, or premarital agreement, commonly abbreviated to prenup or prenupt, is a contract entered into prior to marriage or civil union by the people intending to marry. The content of a prenuptial agreement can vary widely, but commonly includes provisions for division of property and spousal support in the event of divorce or breakup of marriage.

Many countries, including Canada (Quebec), France, Italy, and Germany, have matrimonial regimes, in addition to, or some cases, in lieu of prenuptial agreements.

As of 2007, England and Wales do not enforce prenuptial agreements, but agreements may be upheld at the judge's discretion. These countries also do not have a provision for marital regimes.

There are two types of prenuptial agreements: marriage contract for people who are married or about to be married, and cohabitation agreement for unmarried couples. A variation for people who are already married is a postnuptial agreement, also called a postmarital agreement."

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-04-24 08:40:18 GMT)
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www.investopedia.com/terms/p/prenuptialagreement.asp
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
http://www.granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800...
http://www.nolo.com/resource.cfm/catID/BD0FF030-3064-4680-B4...
http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/marriage-agreements/

swanda
Local time: 15:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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Grading comment
Thanks everyone!

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agree  writeaway: Asker wants confirmation that he is right and the only way to do that (on Proz) is to show valid references. /your initial ref was also fine.
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agree  Parrot
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  -> thanks Parrot

agree  Louise Souter (X)
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  -> thanks Louise

agree  Veronique Bodoutchian
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