traduction en anglais de <diplôme d'état de masseur-kinésithérapeute>

English translation: state diploma in physiotherapy

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French term or phrase:diplôme d'état de masseur-kinésithérapeute
English translation:state diploma in physiotherapy
Entered by: Valerie SYKES

09:25 Mar 28, 2009
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Education / Pedagogy
French term or phrase: traduction en anglais de <diplôme d'état de masseur-kinésithérapeute>
comment traduire ce titre en anglais?
Philippe LECLERC
state diploma in physiotherapy
Explanation:
A 'masseur-kinésithérapeute' is a 'physiotherapist'. (Collins Robert Comprehensive Dictionary).

It's more normal to have a 'diploma', 'certificate', etc in 'physiotherapy'. (See Google).

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-28 14:12:04 GMT)
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"The administration of the School was taken over in ... and a diploma in Physiotherapy was awarded".
http://physio.otago.ac.nz/about/history.html

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-28 14:13:37 GMT)
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http://www.univ-catholille.fr/schools-colleges/training-deta...
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Valerie SYKES
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Though it is difficult to find the proper equivalences, I believe that the one you advised me to use was most appropriate. Thanks a lot
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Summary of answers provided
5Diplôme d'état in physiotherapy
Yolanda Broad
4State diploma as a masseur-physiotherapist
elodieusa
4state diploma in physiotherapy
Valerie SYKES
4Certified/Registered Physiotherapist
gsloane


  

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State diploma as a masseur-physiotherapist


Explanation:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/expert/groupAndCountry...

or State's diploma for masseur-kinesitherapist
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4189212



elodieusa
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state diploma in physiotherapy


Explanation:
A 'masseur-kinésithérapeute' is a 'physiotherapist'. (Collins Robert Comprehensive Dictionary).

It's more normal to have a 'diploma', 'certificate', etc in 'physiotherapy'. (See Google).

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-28 14:12:04 GMT)
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"The administration of the School was taken over in ... and a diploma in Physiotherapy was awarded".
http://physio.otago.ac.nz/about/history.html

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Note added at 4 hrs (2009-03-28 14:13:37 GMT)
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http://www.univ-catholille.fr/schools-colleges/training-deta...

Valerie SYKES
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Grading comment
Though it is difficult to find the proper equivalences, I believe that the one you advised me to use was most appropriate. Thanks a lot
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Certified/Registered Physiotherapist


Explanation:
"Diplôme d'état" means that the physiotherapy studies are approved/sanctioned by the regulatory board for education in France. The translation in English would vary from country to country in the Anglophone world. I, therefore, believe that "certified" or "registered" is the appropriate generic term in this situation if the targeted audience is non-specific. If the targeted audience is specific, then I would suggest finding out the equivalent term in that country.

In most countries, a practising physiotherapist is required to follow a certain number of years of theoretical studies, followed thereafter by practical internship.

In the US and Canada, a registered physiotherapist must be also state/provincial "board certified" before he/she can practise in a state/province. Most healthcare professionals are certified at the state/provincial level, not at the federal level.

The link, however, I've provided is from the EU.


    Reference: http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/qualifications/regprof/i...
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traduction en anglais de <diplôme d\'état de masseur-kinésithérapeute>
Diplôme d'état in physiotherapy


Explanation:
Here is my standard explanation for why you can't just "translate" a degree:

The short explanation is: translators are not in a position to determine degree equivalencies, a complex task that can only be performed by qualified officials at degree-awarding institutions. I speak from experience not only as a translator but as a retired academic: I sat for years on a university committee that developed the standards for admission, transfer and graduation from that institution. Once those standards were developed and approved by the university community and its officials, they became part of the tools with which the university registrar could work. Registrars are the *only* officials at an institution of higher learning who can evaluate degree equivalencies. And they can only do so in terms of their own institution's standards. Not even they are in a position to "re-award" a degree earned elsewhere!

*Awarding* a degree means holding a ceremony and issuing a document, to bestow a status on the recipient. In this, degrees are similar to *names* (of institutions, brands, companies). If the entity has names in more than one language, then it becomes possible to select the already existing name in the target language, in place of the one used in the source language. If the name only exists in the target language, it does not fall to the translator to re-baptize the entity in a new language.

In like manner, we can only substitute the *name* of a degree when it already exists in the target language. Canadian degrees, for instance, have names in both French and English (or English and French...) Such is not the case for any degrees from institutions in France, for instance, where their awarding is only done in French. The same applies to degrees "awarded in Spanish": in fact, they are being awarded under national standards, not “in languages” [in the case of a diploma from Colombia, for instance, these standards are governed by government decrees, as they are in many other countries!] The best that we humble translators can do is to cite the *name* of the degree, and include a parenthetical explanation, which is how I have phrased my answer, above.

As an example of the lack of equivalence between names and content, here is an explanation taken from an article on another French-language-based educational system, the one in Lebanon, where they appear to have retained a model similar to the old French one (note the mention of the one degree–also awarded in Lebanon, at the American University–that *is* a Ph.D.):

“This stage involves writing a dissertation leading to the doctoral degree. The Doctorat de Troisième Cycle is awarded after two years of study beyond the Diplôme d'Etudes Approfondies. The Doctorat d'État (in medicine and pharmacology) is awarded after a further two years of study. Finally, the Ph.D. degree is only offered at American-style universities.” http://www.wes.org/ewenr/00jan/practical.htm.

Yolanda Broad
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