неправомочное собрание (съезд)

English translation: illegitimate

20:20 Jan 4, 2009
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Law (general)
Russian term or phrase: неправомочное собрание (съезд)
Мне кажется, что эпитеты "illegal" и "unlawful" скорее относятся к незаконным собраниям, а слово, которое бы обозначало именно то, что сам съезд (собрание) и, соответственно, его решения не имеют законной силы подобрать не могу. С решениями проще - их можно назвать "invalid", но как быть с самим съездом (собранием)? Буду очень признательна за любые варианты.
Grunia
Ukraine
Local time: 23:00
English translation:illegitimate
Explanation:
It can also be called a "rump" meeting if done held by a minority. Can you tell us the nature of the group and the circumstances of the meeting?

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Note added at 31 mins (2009-01-04 20:51:55 GMT)
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Well, the term has history, if not formality, on its side:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rump
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GaryG
Local time: 16:00
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Thank you!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1unauthorized
Mark Berelekhis
3 +1illegitimate
GaryG
3 +1invalid meeting
John Farebrother


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
unauthorized


Explanation:
And thus having no legal force.

Mark Berelekhis
United States
Local time: 16:00
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PRO pts in category: 395

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Kondorsky: despite the question is closed!
12 hrs
  -> Appreciate it, ALexander :)
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
illegitimate


Explanation:
It can also be called a "rump" meeting if done held by a minority. Can you tell us the nature of the group and the circumstances of the meeting?

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Note added at 31 mins (2009-01-04 20:51:55 GMT)
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Well, the term has history, if not formality, on its side:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rump


GaryG
Local time: 16:00
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 227
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Thank you!
Notes to answerer
Asker: The meeting in question really was held by a minority. But can the word "rump" be used in an official document? TIA


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sergei Belay: по-моему - самое "то". Понятие "нелигитимный" и в русском языке часто применяется
32 mins
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
invalid meeting


Explanation:
Osborne's concise law dictionary: "quorum: the minimum number of persons which constitutes a valid formal meeting"
depends of course on the context

John Farebrother
United Kingdom
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Samantha Payn
16 hrs
  -> thanks
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