pantalon à pont
English translation: fall front trousers
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| 5 | deck trousers |
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| 3 +1 | bell bottoms |
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| 4 | Broad fall trousers |
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| 4 | fall front fly |
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| 3 | sailor trousers |
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peer agreement (net): +1bell bottoms Explanation: Galeries Lafayete Costume Marin 45857 The ad copy reads: "Costume marin anglais en belle serge bleue, double col, cordelière avec sifflet, pantalon a pont. 4 à 6 ans : Fr25. 7 à 9 ans: Fr 26, et 10 à 13 ans: Fr 27. Avec culotte droite, sans pont, 3 Fr de moins. Vareuse anglaise, serge pure laine, doublée chine: 16.75, 18.00, 19.00. Béret en serge assortie, ruban inscription or: Fr 2.75. En drap uni, qualité supérieure: Fr 5.50. This translates as "English sailor suit of good blue serge, double collar. Lanyard with whistle. Pantalon à pont is the French term for long sailor trousers, I believe bell bottoms. Instead of a fly, the piece in front the trousers was buttoned with 1 button in each part of the waist and could be pull down the rest of the trousers stay in place. 4 to 6 years Fr 25. t to 9 years: Fr 26 and 10 to 13 years: Fr 27. With straight kneepants, no (pont?): minus Fr 3. Pure wool serge english short coat, Chinese silk lining: Fr 16.75 - 18.00 - 19.00 Cap in assorted serge, ribbon with gold inscription: Fr 2.75 Plain drapery of superior quality: Fr 5.50 Reference: http://histclo.com/fashion/store/mail/cou/fra/chron/1900/08/... |
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sailor trousers Explanation: If you need today's term. Reference: http://brittanyboutique.com/store/pegomastrousers.html Reference: http://boden.resultspage.com/clothing/Sailor%20Trousers |
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Broad fall trousers Explanation: http://www.hesson-clothiers.com/trousers.htm |
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deck trousers Explanation: hey this is fashion it's not the real world! |
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fall front fly Explanation: or various combinations thereof. Dorling Kindersley's "Les Habits de l'Histoire" calls the "petit pont" a "FALL FLY". Nothing to do with Check out "flap" here: http://books.google.com/books?id=yGtBJiMyaFsC&pg=PA148&lpg=P... He wiped the hand on his trousers and his fingers undid the buttons of the FALL FLY. "No, you look at me!" His other hand was across Millie's mouth; ... www.hhfic.com/fit8a.html By the end of the 16th century, the codpiece had been incorporated into the hose, now usually called breeches, which were roughly knee-length and featured a FLY OR FALL FRONT opening http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers At Fort Hall they carried "FALL FRONT FLY" breeches on their list of ... Most homemade short trousers, pantaloons or breeches were constructed with a ... buckconner.tripod.com/breeches.html They are called ‘FALL FRONT trousers,’ ‘DROP FRONT trousers,’ or sometimes ‘FLAP pants.’ Zippers were not in use in the nineteenth century, and having a button front closure on trousers might have been seen as uncomfortable or not elegant enough, the trousers were closed with a ‘flap’ which buttons on the sides or top. Under the flap, the waistband has a front closure so you can open the flap without dropping trou (convenient, convenient.) The pockets are also located under the flap. Trousers like this were worn from the French Revolution onwards (1790s), around 1840 the centered trouser closure was introduced but for a long time the two styles existed simultaneously. http://19thcentury.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/victorian-mens-w... [with picture] -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 5 hrs (2008-10-09 19:59:53 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Add "trousers" or "breeches" of course, if you want to remain unarrested. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 7 hrs (2008-10-09 22:32:30 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Le PANTALON A PONT était à l’époque commun à tous les militaires. Le devant n’offrant aucune aspérité, il permettait d’éviter tout accident dans les voilures ou lors des manœuvres. pagesperso-orange.fr/roger.roucolle/textes.html Pantalon à pont : pantalon COMPORTANT PAR DEVANT UN PAN D'ETOFFE qui se rabat. http://www.premiumorange.com/archives-autran/archives/lingui... Le Pantalon à pont est une partie de vêtement constituée d´une PIECE D´ETOFFE EN FORME DE TRAPEZE QUI SE RABAT SUR LE DEVANT D´UN PANTALON, de bas en haut. Il sert de fermeture et s’attache par un boutonnage sur les cotés et à la ceinture. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantalon_à_pont Ben oui, c'est un "faux" pantalon à pont ! c'est un pantalon normal, avec une fermeture sur le côté et une PIECE RAJOUTEE SUR LE DEVANT. Je n'ai pas trouvé de patron pour un vrai pantalon à pont http://chezmarypoppins.blogspot.com/2008/04/pantalon-pont-et... The sailor suit was a strict interpretation of the current naval rating's uniform. It comprised white cotton drill bell-bottom trousers with a FALL FRONT ... www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=193804 Enlisted Blue Wool Sailor pants Port Columbus Civil War Naval Musuem. ... These FALL FRONT TROUSERS appear to be the most commonly worn ... www.civilwarnavalmuseum.com/shop/product_info.php?products_... Making Sailor/high-waist shorts help - Craftster.org is a crafting ... If you're talking about FALL FRONT TROUSERS, here is a link to some ... www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=262136.0 The trousers of the enlisted sailor varied in pattern as much as the other articles of clothing. Clothing records indicate that the squadron issued blue trousers throughout the war. Gray trousers did not become an item for issue until 1863. The Confederate government issued trousers in three different patterns: FALL FRONT, seam pocket, and mule ear. Government records did not distinguish which type of trouser was issued. FALL FRONT TROUSERS were THE "TRADITIONAL" SAILOR PANTS with a seven to thirteen button, BIB FRONT CLOSURE. The legs and seat were full to allow free movement and the leg cuffs were open so that the pants could be rolled to the knee. http://www.navyandmarine.org/historicalref/csn_uniforms/inde... Trousers or Petticoat Breeches. Trousers should be cut above the ankle, FRONT FALL or French fly; petticoat breeches or "slops" (FALL FRONT or French fly) ... www.hmsrichmond.org/orderbook4.htm Just the thing for any sea-faring reenactor. Also called "petticoat trousers", these have a fall-front style made similar to our fall-front breeches but with wide legs hemmed several inches below the knees. No pockets. Made in natural linen. Give waist and desired inseam http://jas-townsend.com/product_info.php?products_id=997 Apparently the buttoned front fly had been used in the early 1700's, but by the latter part of the century all breeches, pantaloons, trousers, and overalls used the NARROW FALL system of closure. The narrow fall was basically a horizontally hinged flap which was held closed by three buttons on the waistband. BROAD FALL trousers had a fall which went from hip to hip, and did not come into use until the mid-nineteenth century. http://www.northwestjournal.ca/VI6.htm |
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| Reference: Bell-bottoms and their history Reference information: It will depend on the date of said trousers: "Bell-bottoms' precise origins are uncertain. In the early nineteenth century, very wide pants ending in a bell began to be worn in the U.S. Navy. Clothing varied between ships, however, since in the early days of the U.S. [1][2][3] In one of the first recorded descriptions of sailors' uniforms, Commodore Stephen Decatur wrote in 1813 that the men on the frigates United States and Macedonia were wearing "glazed canvas hats with stiff brims, decked with streamers of ribbon, blue jackets buttoned loosely over waistcoats and blue ters with bell bottoms."[1] Though the British Royal Navy usually was the leader in nautical fashion, bell-bottoms did not become regulation wear for the Royal Navy until the mid-1800s.[2] These "bell-bottoms" were often just very wide-legged trousers, unlike modern versions cut with a distinct bell.[2] While many reasons to explain sailors' wearing of this style have been cited over the years, most theories have little credibility because reliable documentation is lacking.[2][3] In the 1960s, at least, U.S. naval recruits were taught to use their bellbottoms as life preservers by slipping them off, then tying the legs open and capturing air in them." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell-bottoms -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2008-10-09 16:00:17 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Sorry, I am drawing a blank. Perhaps you could somehow get round it by the use of 'flared naval trousers'. I wonder if something on this site might help you: http://www.netmarine.net/ Modern day French naval dress, but not in itself much use to you: http://www.netmarine.net/tradi/symbolique/index.htm |
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