オンマウス

English translation: depends on verb or noun usage

04:01 Sep 15, 2008
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Computers (general)
Japanese term or phrase: オンマウス
画像やリンクのうえにマウスを置くことを「オンマウス」と日本語で言いますが、これは和製英語ではなく、英語でもon mouth を名詞として使うことはできますか?また、その場合の正しい表記についても教えてください。
English Hands
Japan
Local time: 11:27
English translation:depends on verb or noun usage
Explanation:
Placing the "mouse" inside a certain region of the screen really means that you are placing the cursor over that region. The mouse events that Tony Gonzalez refers to are common to many languages and are fundamental to any GUI-driven operating system, as well as their underlying programming languages.

"mouseover" is used as a term to describe placing the cursor over something and to expect a certain reaction (e.g. balloon appears with explanatory text). For example, if you place the mouse over X, then Y happens. Buttons with mouseover functionality, for example, will do something if you place the CURSOR (not mouse) over the button.

Mouseover (as a single word) should only be used as a noun referring to the act of placing the cursor over something. Note, you don't have to use the mouse, as you could also be using a trackpad to accomplish the same thing, but because most languages are a bit old in their terminology, they use "mouse".

You should not use "to mouse over" as a verb => "place cursor over...." is correct. Also, even though the Japanese says "オンマウス" you should not say "place mouse over...." as in fact you are placing the cursor, not the mouse, over the GUI object in question.
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dchild
Local time: 22:27
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Thank you very much for your perfect answer! Your explanation made me feel confident that I should use "mouseover" this time. Thank you again!
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Summary of answers provided
5depends on verb or noun usage
dchild
3 +1mouse over
Harvey Beasley
4On Mouse
peter arnout
4onMouseDown, mouseOver, mouse event
Tony Gonzalez


  

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mouse over


Explanation:
"A similar thing would happen if you mouse over the icon selector for a certain timeout. "

This sounds OK to me.


    Reference: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/1438
Harvey Beasley
Local time: 11:27
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you!


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agree  casey
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On Mouse


Explanation:
FYI

peter arnout
Belgium
Local time: 04:27
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Native speaker of: Dutch
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Asker: Thank you!

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onMouseDown, mouseOver, mouse event


Explanation:
There are different terms that are likely to be used, depending on context.

In most event-driven programming languages (Javascript, for example) "onMouseOver" is the name of an event created when the mouse is moved into a specific region (over a button, over a text field, etc). "onMouseDown" is the event created when a mouse button is clicked, "onMouseUp" is the event created when a depressed mouse button is released, etc.

Taken together, these are called "mouse events". I don't think that "on mouse" will be used alone very often, and "mouse over" as suggested above sounds like a very casual usage that normally won't be suited to use in a professional translation (in a translation, I would always use something like "if you move the [mouse] cursor over the icon selector..." etc).

Example sentence(s):
  • On a mouse event, the program will notify all listeners...
  • When an onMouseOver event is received, the cursor will change to...

    Reference: http://www.quirksmode.org/js/events_mouse.html
    Reference: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/awt/event/Mouse...
Tony Gonzalez
Local time: 11:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Asker: Thank you very much for your answer! I could not select yours as the best, as "dchild" enhanced your answer. Still I could learn a lot from you, and I appreciate it so much.

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
depends on verb or noun usage


Explanation:
Placing the "mouse" inside a certain region of the screen really means that you are placing the cursor over that region. The mouse events that Tony Gonzalez refers to are common to many languages and are fundamental to any GUI-driven operating system, as well as their underlying programming languages.

"mouseover" is used as a term to describe placing the cursor over something and to expect a certain reaction (e.g. balloon appears with explanatory text). For example, if you place the mouse over X, then Y happens. Buttons with mouseover functionality, for example, will do something if you place the CURSOR (not mouse) over the button.

Mouseover (as a single word) should only be used as a noun referring to the act of placing the cursor over something. Note, you don't have to use the mouse, as you could also be using a trackpad to accomplish the same thing, but because most languages are a bit old in their terminology, they use "mouse".

You should not use "to mouse over" as a verb => "place cursor over...." is correct. Also, even though the Japanese says "オンマウス" you should not say "place mouse over...." as in fact you are placing the cursor, not the mouse, over the GUI object in question.

Example sentence(s):
  • Mouseover functionality (including audio help) is provided with many accessibility-compatible programs for handicapped users.
  • Mouse events are triggered if you place the cursor over a certain GUI object.
dchild
Local time: 22:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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Thank you very much for your perfect answer! Your explanation made me feel confident that I should use "mouseover" this time. Thank you again!
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