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patrimoni fiduciati e raccolta fiduciaria

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Italian term or phrase: patrimoni fiduciati e raccolta fiduciaria French translation: patrimoines confiés en fiducie et collecte fiduciaire Entered by: Marie Christine Cramay

10:35 Sep 12, 2008

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Italian to French translations [PRO] Bus/Financial - Finance (general) / Société fiduciaire

Italian term or phrase: patrimoni fiduciati e raccolta fiduciaria Punti di Forza Tutela per Legge dei *patrimoni fiduciati* Il capitale gestito fiduciariamente non appartiene alla società fiduciaria. La assoluta separazione patrimoniale tra *raccolta fiduciaria* e patrimonio della società è sancita per Legge (art. 72 Legge 17 novembre 2005 n.165). Il s'agit du site Internet d'une société fiduciaire située à San Marino. Merci beaucoup.

Marie Christine Cramay KudoZ activity Questions: 3164 (1 open) (2 without valid answers) (155 closed without grading) Answers: 4648 Italy Local time: 01:16

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3 +2	patrimoines fiduciaires et collecte fiduciaire	Xanthippe

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Marie Christine Cramay Italy ASKER 13:19 Sep 16, 2008  Le client a dit qu'il y avait une différence entre "fiduciato" et "fiduciario" : ce n'est pas le même sens, désolée. Pour le 2ème terme, c'était la traduction littérale pour laquelle j'avais moi-même opté. Merci quand même. Marie Christine Cramay Italy ASKER Patrimoni fiduciati 15:06 Sep 12, 2008  Biens gérés sous mandat? Car "gestione fiduciaria" = gestion fiduciaire/ sous mandat. Marie Christine Cramay Italy ASKER 14:49 Sep 12, 2008  J'ai contacté un ami qui m'a dit ceci : "patrimoni fiduciati"= beni affidati in gestione alle società fiduciarie/ gestiti dalle fiduciarie" et "raccolta fiduciaria" = totale dei beni affidati a queste stesse fiduciarie e che non appartengono a loro". J'attends les avis des collègues. Xanthippe France 14:20 Sep 12, 2008  mince ! comme tu le dis si bien il s'agit d'un vrai mystère ! Marie Christine Cramay Italy ASKER 14:12 Sep 12, 2008  Il n'y a pas d'erreur de frappe : il s'agit bien de "patrimoni fiduciati" et non pas de "patrimoni fiduciari" que j'ai aussi dans mes petites fiches. "Collecte fiduciaire" : c'est la 1ère chose à laquelle j'ai pensé, mais je ne trouve rien dans ce sens sur Internet. C'est un vrai mystère! Automatic update in 00:

  

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patrimoines fiduciaires et collecte fiduciaire Explanation: ne sono praticamente certa vedi il sito qui sotto dove è riportato un articolo che spiega tutte queste cose.... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 heures (2008-09-12 14:08:45 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- ici aussi on parle de patrimoine fiduciaire http://www.dictionnaire-juridique.com/definition/fiducie.php     Reference: http://www.avocats.fr/space/thomas.loncle/contents/?searchTe...	Xanthippe France Local time: 01:16 Works in field Native speaker of: French PRO pts in category: 11
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Agnès Levillayer: c'est bien le patrimoine d'affectation constitué par un contrat de fiducie. On l'associe à "patrimoine fiduciaire" dans tous les textes se référant à la nouvelle loi de 2007 1 hr   -> merci agnès ! agree  cenek tomas 2 hrs   -> merci cenek
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Reference Reference information: www.aappe.fr/uploadsnossites/docs/la_creation_legicentriste_de_la_fiducie.pdf cherche dans les deux langues avec les mots - patrimonio fiduciato fiduciario creditori - fiducie patrimoine fiduciaire créanciers tu trouves de nombreuses réf. qui expliquent exactement les mêmes mécanismes Il y a des nuances entre les législations (fiducie rapprochée de la titrisation au Luxembourg) http://www.fincompany.sm/fiducia_nel_diritto.htm www.dfcg.com/images/echanges/2608-p86a87.pdf raccolta fiduciaria, boh, je suppose que ce sont les sommes globalement "récoltées" auprès des clients puis investies sur les marchés boursiers par les sociétés fiduciaires	Agnès Levillayer Italy Native speaker of: French PRO pts in category: 314
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