ville authentique

English translation: with authentic charm / an authentic atmosphere

14:17 Jun 20, 2008
French to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Tourism & Travel
French term or phrase: ville authentique
Can't put my finger on what native English speakers might say.

'Authentic town/city' only seems to appear as translations.

This particular town is Saint Jean de Luz (but I don't suppose that's very important).
Thanks for any authentic sounding suggestions.
Alain Pommet
Local time: 04:42
English translation:with authentic charm / an authentic atmosphere
Explanation:
Just an alternative to Nora's traditional/typical (both of which I agree with) - in case you wanted to keep the "authentic" idea.

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Note added at 2 days22 hrs (2008-06-23 12:19:32 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, Alain!
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Vicky James
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:42
Grading comment
Thanks to all for your excellent suggestions and comments - some of which I shall keep up my sleeve for another time - this answer was closest to what I actually put - even if it doesn't quite mean the same thing.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3A carefully preserved town with a rich and colourful history
Juliette Scott
4 +2traditional town
Maria Pentsa
3 +3unspoilt town
Andy Bliss
3 +3with authentic charm / an authentic atmosphere
Vicky James
4 +1typical town
Nora Mahony
5original /genuine village /town
Enrique Huber (X)
4real town
Graham macLachlan


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
traditional town


Explanation:
Based on the context given in your notes, I think "traditional" would be appropriate. Also, if you go to the link provided, you will see that this particular town is indeed situated in a traditional part of the Basque Country.




    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Jean-de-Luz
Maria Pentsa
Greece
Local time: 05:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  B D Finch: The trouble with "authentic" is that it assumes some places are "inauthentic", when they might be just truly awful...
12 mins

agree  Carol Gullidge
40 mins
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
typical town


Explanation:
I think that 'typical' covers the idea of it being the 'real thing' without suggesting that there's some kind of film-set, fake town down the road.

It's nice in the sentence, as it admits that it is just like any other town in the area --- but better, because it has a particularly rich history behind it.

Nora Mahony
Ireland
Local time: 03:42
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: I've never been there and was hoping to visit it soon, but if it's just "typical" then I might as well go somewhere else. Surely they are trying to say that it is special?
3 mins
  -> Sure - they do, it has a 'passé particulièrement riche'. But 'traditional' is fine by me, too.

agree  Speakering (X): i would add typical of what?
14 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
A carefully preserved town with a rich and colourful history


Explanation:
Maybe authentique could have this idea? It is used so generally nowadays...

Juliette Scott
United Kingdom
Local time: 04:42
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Laurence Idezak (X): To me it's probably the best way to express it and to make it sound English
32 mins

agree  sueaberwoman: Or a beautifully preserved town.
46 mins

agree  Shannon Summers: I like this idea
8 hrs

neutral  Melissa McMahon: I think something like 'well-preserved' would be good, but 'carefully' suggests to me something consciously packed in cotton wool, museum-like, and St Jean de Luz isn't like that.
13 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
original /genuine village /town


Explanation:
direct translation

Enrique Huber (X)
Mexico
Local time: 21:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
unspoilt town


Explanation:
'Unspoilt' is a word that crops up a lot in marketing literature and is just another way of getting at the idea that a place has retained its original (authentic) character.

Andy Bliss
Local time: 04:42
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nora Mahony: This is a great idea, I think.
23 mins
  -> Thank you, Nora!

agree  ormiston: I think this is what they are getting at - it has managed to keep its character etc.
4 hrs

agree  Melissa McMahon: yes, closest to the sense of 'authentique' I think
11 hrs
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
real town


Explanation:
I think they mean that it is a working town, still active, that has a community and not a town given over to second homes, hotels, etc.

Kirkbymoorside is a real town, unmistakeably in Yorkshire. ... Because we're a real town, we can welcome tourism without having to pander to its disruptive ...
www.kirkbymoorside.com/Kirkby/My Kirkbymoorside/Keeping the...

... further away from Henham according to Google maps, is a real town with hardly any money and which has a population that lives there all year round. ...
forums.latitudefestival.co.uk/printable.aspx?m=20669

Tags ales and country food in pub quality real town. If this is your company click here · See website, phone and opening hours ...
www.qype.co.uk/place/159334-The-Malt-Shovel-Scunthorpe

Graham macLachlan
Local time: 04:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 178
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
with authentic charm / an authentic atmosphere


Explanation:
Just an alternative to Nora's traditional/typical (both of which I agree with) - in case you wanted to keep the "authentic" idea.

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Note added at 2 days22 hrs (2008-06-23 12:19:32 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, Alain!

Vicky James
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thanks to all for your excellent suggestions and comments - some of which I shall keep up my sleeve for another time - this answer was closest to what I actually put - even if it doesn't quite mean the same thing.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: See my comment to pentzouli: I know the term is used, but it seems to have a different (better) nuance in French.
14 mins

agree  Emma Paulay: the two can be combined: 'a traditional town with authentic charm"
36 mins

agree  Tamara Salvio: authentic charm is very nice in this context and differentiates it from the average tourist trap
1 hr

agree  Gacela20: authentic charm
4 hrs
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