dočarati

English translation: give a taste of/insight into?

12:23 Mar 2, 2008

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Croatian term or phrase: dočarati

Evo pitanja koje sam postavila za parove English-English.
Odgovorili su mi da je conjure up sasvim dobar glagol u ovom kontekstu. Drugi koji sam razmatrala je reveal.
Ali ja bih najrade rekla show. Sto vi mislite?

I have to translate a Croatian phrase:

Dopustite da vam kroz ovaj mali poklon dočaramo barem dio bogatih običaja ...

Docarati means present, describe but in a more "poetic" way, my dictionary says conjure up, but when I look it up in an English dictionary the synonyms it provides are: evoce, bring to mind, recall.

But you cannot recall or evoce sth that you are experiencing for the first time.

Are there any synonyms for conjure up not meaning evoce.

The English translation of this phrase would be:

Let us docarati (conjure up, show, describe or ??) at least a part of rich Croatian customs....

So these guests will probably experience and see our rich customs for the first time and they cannot be evoced or recalled.

Laura1 KudoZ activity Questions: 951 (11 open) (4 without valid answers) (74 closed without grading) Answers: 34
Local time: 19:12

English translation:give a taste of/insight into?

Explanation:
It's a tricky one - here is another couple of suggestions. Though I am not sure that the recipient is actually "getting a taste" - I don't know from the context whether they are experiencing the customs, or just being given a picture, which is not the same as getting a taste...

Or maybe "insight into"? It's not as nice an expression as "dočarati", I agree.

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2008-03-03 21:08:16 GMT) Post-grading
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I guess there were some other good suggestions there. Actually, I'm surprised I haven't run into problems with "dočarati" myself before...

Selected response from:

Mark Daniels
Local time: 19:12

Grading comment

Thak you.

Laura
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +4

to depict

Mira Stepanovic

3 +2

give a taste of/insight into?

Mark Daniels

let you in on

MojoIvanovic

bring to mind

PoveyTrans (X)

let us take you into the world of ....

Romana (X)

give you the idea of

glorija

reveal

Kale75 (X)

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

13 mins confidence:

bring to mind

Explanation:
imagine / think of

but I think bring to mind is a way of inviting the recipient to share in the world of Croatian customs...

IMHO conjure up would actually be good here ... In English you don't have to have experienced something before to conjure or evoke something, it can also be along the lines of 'be similar to'. The strict logic you are suggesting is not applied to the use of this verb.

E.g.

The scenery in Greenland was evocative / conjured up images of the Norwegian fjords.

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Note added at 41 mins (2008-03-02 13:05:01 GMT)
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It would be best to know the full context since show does normally imply the presentation of something. Is this a brochure, are there pictures? Medjutim, I think Mark's idea is a good one...

PoveyTrans (X)
Local time: 18:12
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20

Notes to answerer

Asker: Can I simply say show?

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

to depict

Explanation:
Perhaps instead of 'to show'

http://www.answers.com/topic/depict :
1. To represent in a picture or sculpture.
2. To represent in words. See synonyms at represent.

http://www.chairs.gc.ca/web/chairholders/viewprofile_e.asp?i...
"Our history books tend to depict the customs of the Métis people stereotypically, from the conqueror's perspective,'' Dr. Gagnon points out. `'Our goal is to tell Métis history from the Métis point of view, and to demonstrate that it is rich in tradition, success stories and acts of resistance to assimilation.''

Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 19:12
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

Serbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: I meni, super mi je.

1 hr confidence:

let us take you into the world of ....

Explanation:
Ja bih isla na opisno radi jaceg dojma, jer mislim da je to i cilj autora.

Romana (X)
Local time: 01:12
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Croatian

1 hr confidence:

give you the idea of

Explanation:
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glorija
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of:

Croatian
PRO pts in category: 4

4 hrs confidence:

reveal

Explanation:
samo ideja....obzirom da je o poklonu rijec

Kale75 (X)
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of:

Bosnian,

Serbian

13 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

give a taste of/insight into?

"Let us give you at least some small taste of/insight into these rich customs by way of this gift..."

Mark Daniels
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Grading comment

Thak you.

Laura

1481 days confidence:

let you in on

Explanation:
For the context given, this may work similarly to or better than some of the other suggestions:

"With this present, allow us to let you in on at least part of the rich Croatian customs..."

(In my sentence, you may also want to take note of the zero article and of the definite article.)

The above idiom doesn't work in every context, e.g.: *"Please, Your Honor, allow me to let you in on what exactly I did at that moment." The reason is that "let you in on" carries along (even if loosely) a notion of a secret and of an insider group. It'd be foolish here to expect that anything spoken before the court remain a secret, and rather inappropriate to expect the judge to publicly accept an invitation into any insider group.

However, in the opening example, your giving a present to someone makes them, by default, a member of your insider group of sorts (because, they are the select few; not everyone is entitled to your presents). Also, one's foreign national culture may be taken as something personal or esoteric, and revealing it does resemble telling some kind of a secret.

After all, one of the meanings of dočarati deals with magic, which is closely related to the notion of a secret.

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This sentence might flow a bit better:

"We present you this gift with the hope that it may let you in on at least part of the rich Croatian customs..."

Example sentence(s):

With this present, allow us to let you in on at least part of the rich Croatian customs...
Allow me to let you in on the student experience of exams.

Reference: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/let+in+on
Reference: http://itsnotsosexy.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/so-this-has-bee...

MojoIvanovic
Native speaker of:

Serbo-Croat

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