texte de loi

English translation: bill

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French term or phrase:	texte de loi
English translation:	bill
Entered by:	Pavlovna

22:39 Jan 24, 2008

French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)

French term or phrase: texte de loi

Context: anti-piracy measures in France. After a description of the measures to be adopted, this sentence appears:

"Un texte de loi en ce sens devrait être voté d’ici 2009"

My question: does "texte de loi" mean something like "draft law"? Is it synonymous with "projet de loi"? I can't find a definition of this expression online and it doesn't seem to appear in the archives.

Thanks in advance!

Pavlovna

Bill

Explanation:
In UK English, this is what a proposed law is before it has been approved by Parliament.

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-01-25 00:26:06 GMT)
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"A Bill becomes an Act of Parliament when it has passed through Parliament and sent to the Queen for Royal Assent."
www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_P...

"The French Parliament has voted Friday, June 30th 2006 to approve the DRM bill called DADVSI (« droit d'auteur et droits voisins dans la société de ..."
eucd.info/index.php?2006/06/30/333-french-parliament-approves-the-worst-copyright-law-in-europe

"On January 8, 2008, the Jordan Government decided to withdraw a controversial draft law on NGOs from the Lower House of Parliament. This Bill had been ..."
www.fidh.org/spip.php?article5095

Selected response from:

B D Finch
France
Local time: 22:55

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4 +8

law

ACOZ (X)

4 +7

Bill

B D Finch

3 +2

proposed law

MatthewLaSon

legislation

Manuel Malherbe

text of a law

Gert Sass (M.A.)

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1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +8

law

Explanation:
I suppose it really means "the body of the text" but translating it by "law" is correct. In a way, the "law" is the general term for the whole thing whereas "texte de loi" means getting down to the nitty-gritty details. We don't make this distinction in English. If you look at the website below, you'll see they use "loi" in the introduction and "texte de loi" further on in the text.

Reference: http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/actualites/loi/musees/pri...

ACOZ (X)
Australia
Local time: 06:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 106

1 hr confidence:

text of a law

Explanation:
Not really sure about this, but my idea is simply that if this referred to a "draft law" only, it should have been called "projet de loi" or similar in French.
You might get more precise answers by specifying the kind of piracy in question though.

Gert Sass (M.A.)
Germany
Local time: 22:55
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: The law in question concerns measures to discourage people from illegally downloading music.

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +7

Bill

B D Finch
France
Local time: 22:55
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 509

Grading comment

Thanks very much!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

AllegroTrans: yes, but it is country-specific to UK/US etc. "Law" is equally valid, without being country-specific

23 mins

-> Thanks AT - note that one of the examples I gave is specifically French - there were other French examples I could have given.

agree

MatthewLaSon: Yep, this is it.

44 mins

-> Thanks

agree

Patrice

50 mins

-> Thanks sentaa

agree

Attorney DC Bar: "a law should be passed in 2007" would do it, but 'bill' is also fine here. Un texte de loi est souvent issu d’un ensemble de travaux préalables. Parmi ceux-ci, on peut citer : l’organisation de débats nationaux ou de consultations syndicales,

4 hrs

-> Thanks

agree

Assimina Vavoula

5 hrs

-> Thanks

agree

Graham macLachlan

6 hrs

-> Thanks

disagree

Manuel Malherbe: qv my previous comment: the French author doesn't care about the process, just the result. No idea whether it is government sponsored (projet de loi) or a private member's bill (proposition de loi).

6 hrs

-> Doesn't make any difference, it's a bill until it's voted onto the statute book or Code and becomes a law.

agree

rkillings: A draft law is a "bill" in the entire English-speaking world. Use "bill" if you're going to say "voted on", or recast as passing a law as rufinus suggests. (You don't actually vote on a *law* except [when voting on a bill] to amend or repeal it.)

8 hrs

-> Thanks

agree

Tony M

8 hrs

-> Thanks

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

proposed law

Explanation:
Hello,

I hightly doubt this is a law because it hasn't been voted in yet.

This seems to be a proposed law, or bill.

I hope this helps.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 16:55
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 405

8 hrs confidence:

legislation

Explanation:
As in, "my Goverment shall adopt legislation on..." when the Queen speaks from the throne to open Parliament.

Manuel Malherbe
Local time: 22:55
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French,

English

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