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с нуля

English translation: starting from nothing, or from the ground up

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Russian term or phrase:с нуля
English translation:starting from nothing, or from the ground up
Entered by: Anatoliy Babich

17:42 Nov 29, 2007
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
Russian term or phrase: с нуля
Из CV:
Г-жа Иванова организовала работу HR департамента с нуля, сформировала горизонтальную команду в регионах.
...
Anatoliy Babich
Ukraine
Local time: 00:18
starting from nothing, or from the ground up
Explanation:
As here:

Even Microsoft Started from Nothing. by Christine Gibson ..... not the Justice Department—could slow the most successful startup in U.S. history. ...
www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20061125-bill-gates-m... - 48k - Cached - Similar pages

There are some idioms too: from the ground up, from the studs up (that one is more strictly about construction, however).

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Note added at 44 мин (2007-11-29 18:27:00 GMT)
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"Mr. Ivanov organized the HR department from the ground up" I think sounds better on a CV than "from nothing."

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Note added at 46 мин (2007-11-29 18:28:10 GMT)
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I'm still not entirely satisfied though.

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Note added at 59 мин (2007-11-29 18:41:55 GMT)
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Sorry, Ms.!
Selected response from:

Deborah Hoffman
Local time: 17:18
Grading comment
Thanks a lot!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +13from scratch
Adam Lankamer
5 +7starting from nothing, or from the ground up
Deborah Hoffman
3 +7from scratch
Sonia Clough
4started up a/the HR Department (as a green-field project)
Clue
3has put together from scratch
katerina turevich


Discussion entries: 6





  

Answers


1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +13
from scratch


Explanation:
hth

Adam Lankamer
Poland
Local time: 23:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Yepifantsev
0 min
agree  Mikhail Kropotov
0 min
agree  maxomel
0 min
agree  Smantha
3 mins
agree  danya
4 mins
agree  Iosif JUHASZ
26 mins
agree  Sergei Tumanov
42 mins
agree  Simon Hollingsworth
46 mins
agree  Olga Judina
58 mins
agree  Andrew Vdovin
58 mins
agree  Jack Doughty
1 hr
agree  Alexander Onishko: 100 % agree
2 hrs
agree  R. E. M
2 hrs
agree  bububu
3 hrs
agree  Gennady Lapardin
4 hrs
disagree  vershina: I think "from scratch" is too colloquial for a CV. "...buiit the HR department from the ground up" is better.
11 hrs
disagree  szvejk (X): in solidarity with John, too much colloquial for C.V.
1 day 23 hrs
neutral  Tatiana N. (X): I agree with John Hershey - too colloquial in this context
3 days 23 hrs
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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +7
from scratch


Explanation:
possibly...

Sonia Clough
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Yepifantsev
0 min
agree  Smantha
3 mins
agree  Sergei Tumanov
43 mins
agree  Simon Hollingsworth
46 mins
agree  Irena Pizzi
1 hr
agree  Alexander Onishko: 100 % agree
2 hrs
agree  bububu
3 hrs
agree  Gennady Lapardin
4 hrs
disagree  szvejk (X):
1 day 23 hrs
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +7
starting from nothing, or from the ground up


Explanation:
As here:

Even Microsoft Started from Nothing. by Christine Gibson ..... not the Justice Department—could slow the most successful startup in U.S. history. ...
www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20061125-bill-gates-m... - 48k - Cached - Similar pages

There are some idioms too: from the ground up, from the studs up (that one is more strictly about construction, however).

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Note added at 44 мин (2007-11-29 18:27:00 GMT)
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"Mr. Ivanov organized the HR department from the ground up" I think sounds better on a CV than "from nothing."

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Note added at 46 мин (2007-11-29 18:28:10 GMT)
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I'm still not entirely satisfied though.

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Note added at 59 мин (2007-11-29 18:41:55 GMT)
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Sorry, Ms.!

Deborah Hoffman
Local time: 17:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Thanks a lot!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Arkadi Burkov
59 mins
agree  pfifficus
3 hrs
agree  Dorene Cornwell: (re)built the HR department from the ground up
9 hrs
agree  Gennady Lapardin: may be radically/essentially rebuilt
12 hrs
agree  marygold
19 hrs
agree  szvejk (X): from ground up, exactly. don't feel confused.
1 day 23 hrs
agree  Tatiana N. (X)
3 days 23 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
started up a/the HR Department (as a green-field project)


Explanation:
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-11-29 19:07:07 GMT)
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green-field я добавила для "идиоматичности" :)) start up, имхо, достаточно

Clue
Russian Federation
Local time: 00:18
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
has put together from scratch


Explanation:
maybe the problem is in the 'organizing from scratch', that doesn't really sound.
But if you do smth. else instead: like "put together the HR Department from stratch"
or even..
Mrs. Ivanova takes the honor of (or "is one responsible for") putting the HR Department from scratch, organizing a horizontal team (?) acrross the regions(?)
but then again...
it's not really important that she started s nulya, but rather that having started s nulya, she achieved some sort of cohesion. Right?
So just say it.
Mrs. Ivanova has accomplished a feat of management, making the HR Department a well-oiled department literally from nothing, pulling horizontal teams together across regions.
Or whatever.

katerina turevich
Netherlands
Local time: 23:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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